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good and bad
« on: February 26, 2019, 03:13:17 pm »
LRH says no such thing as good and bad.

Dennis says not exactly . He said you gotta have good and bad but he agrees with everything else ?  hmmm

Is the opposite of  " know"  , not know " or how about self and others ? or origin and receipt ?

if opposites exist , the yexist so how can good and bad or all the others not exist ?

Even level 5 . it flips polarity half way through .

Since it only flips one time like up and down for example , that means its still dual poles .

His stuff is very dualistic

Gender  stuff . Males originate and females at the receipt point receive the orgination . Sex act.

where is this place Dennis mentions, " there "  as in he doesnt know anyone who got  " there  "  yet .

Where is "THERE"  ?  1 with all life  ?  Near Havana ?

Why is Jurgen only on level 3  ? since what 2001? 18 , 19 years ?

are all trommers ex scientologists ?

Thanks for reading hope to hear back from everyone soon

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Re: good and bad
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 07:39:13 am »
Hello, Joey :-)

I think I replied to MJH's recent post instead of yours on the subject of good and evil.

Personally I would not ask why is Jurgen - or anyone else - stalled on a level of trom.  I would only ask for myself, and my personal answer was even brought up by Dennis, only I don't think Dennis realized how subtle and prevalent it is.  That is the subject of brain damage or brain occlusions.  I am personally addressing that as part of my first dynamic condition handling - with great optimism and confidence - that is the level I am currently at - a very rudimentary and necessary undercut for myself.  However, I have mastered and frequently rely on the repair of importances practice, which has even saved me from death.

Dennis' second observation was the materialistic/narcissistic condition of "Man the materialist" (his quote)... when winning becomes so important that the other players are nothing more than pawns in a delusional big game.  The Apostle Paul is said to have said, "The love of money is the root of all evil", and Dennis said money is a substitute system for pure postulate power.

RE my practice of Trom, I came to the conclusion - after doing Level Three - that I quickied through Level Two, and have dropped back to level two, focusing on my fixation on colors and the sensations I get from them.

I'm not speaking of anyone but myself, asking what is dis-empowering me.

How can one complete any mind-bending practice if one cannot thinketh straight?


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Re: good and bad
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2019, 01:29:40 pm »
Thanks Karalee

Just a joke re the Jurg and l3

Nice to hear you’re on l2 It’s a whopper Great way to see the differences of similarities .

When I first saw the levels of Pfcc, I ran them as completely postulate like arc straight wire but I ran then In objective reality not subjective as COMPLEMTRY NOT opposing. For the fun of it Felt great too . I was completing everything that came my way .

Then 3 4 5 .

I had no idea where it would take me

Not “ where “ I thought at the time .

Can you reply to the other questions ?

THANKS !!!

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Re: good and bad
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2019, 09:07:16 pm »
That's a very innovative way to get your toes wet with running the Postulate Failure Chart and I shall give it a run that way too.  Yes level four packs a punch, hehehe :-) it might be addressing and undoing one of the basic implanting methods.

Have you ever tried running Level Four?

Have you ever tried running the code of ethics, as in "Get the idea of forcing someone to know a thing against their choice?" and timebreaking whatever comes up for that day?

Re your question.  If I were being the "To Know" side of the game then my most restimulative opposer would be someone being "not be known". Of course we have a lot more in common than we can admit in order to keep the game running.

Lester Levenson went into what he called the "Causal Realm" after getting up to running out Separation and Oneness. Would that be one of Dennis' Twin Impossibility Points (TIP or TIPM)?

Besides Dennis' correct opposers I also come up against what you call dualities - fixed dualities that need to be de-bugged. Doesn't Dennis call them Twin Impossibility Points?  I have plenty of those and initially it feels painful when I first contact them, so it is a relief to run them.

Yes, some Trommers are not associated with Scientology... this lifetime at least. Scientology in some form has been around for at least billions ... it was around during the time of what Ron called the OT3 incident.  Until now it seems it has always been doomed to defeat from without, and a half-baked failure from within... degraded into another - what Dennis calls - "freedom factory".  What if Ron knew it was just a red herring? Don't you just love those covert game strategies?  LOL 

Overall though I'm optimistic about seeing my cause and changing my mind towards complementary life-oriented goals - a renewed life for all :-)