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Cory

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Problem with the sentence
« on: February 25, 2014, 06:28:32 am »
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"That which is brought into existence, taken out of existence, known or not-known is called an effect.

1.    The purpose of bringing an effect into existence is to make it known.
2.    The purpose of taking an effect out of existence is to make it not-known.
3.    The purpose of knowing is to know.
4.    The purpose of not-knowing is to not know.

Thus, 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 are complementary postulates. They enhance affinity.
Thus, 1 & 4 and 2 & 3 are conflicting postulates. They lower affinity.

Conflicting postulates are called a game. The purpose of a game is to have fun. All conflicting postulates are essentially a game, though it may be called other things. Due to contagion with opposing postulates all games tend to reduce the ability of the being to postulate. The power of a being is his ability to make his postulates effective."

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My problem is with the sentence, "Thus, 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 are complementary postulates. They enhance affinity.
Thus, 1 & 4 and 2 & 3 are conflicting postulates.".

What he is talking about above are not postulates. It should be said, "Thus, 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 are complementary. They enhance affinity.
Thus, 1 & 4 and 2 & 3 are conflicting."

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Re: Problem with the sentence
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 06:04:53 pm »
Hm..

Personally I consider the words PURPOSE and POSTULATE to be synonyms (in the TROM universe).

I did some work in this area a few months ago and found about 20-30 words that I considered to be synonyms of the word POSTULATE.
They are just weaker or more complex or includes some counter postulates in them.
Dennis also mentioned a few of these and called them synonyms (of the word POSTULATE).
This is what started my search.

My viewpoint is that the POSTULATE is the real thing and all those others are different flavours of the thing.
With FLAVOUR I mean it is more of a mix of significances and often more than one single clean POSTULATE in the package (flavour).

Typical synonyms are INTENTION, CONSIDERATION, HOPE, DREAM, ACTION, AGREEMENT...
(all of them lower quality postulates)

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Re: Problem with the sentence
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2019, 09:55:33 pm »
doesn't it boil down to Dennis saying some postulates create conflict and some postulates create affinity (are complementary)?

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Re: Problem with the sentence
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2019, 11:45:58 am »
This is how i think. A postulate comes from the causation source. Naming a postualte anything other than a postulate is wrong. But the result of that postulate is what dennis is describing. They are states of an intention. Am i wrong on this or got a misunderstood?
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Re: Problem with the sentence
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2019, 02:48:36 am »
Hi Cory,

copied and pasted from the original TROM a Games Manual:

"Purpose, Intention, Goal and Postulate can be regarded as synonyms."

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Re: Problem with the sentence
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2019, 06:04:15 pm »
postulates and desires are synonyms.

Use the word desire from now on. It's the same thing. It sounds simpler too .

They both accomplish the same exact thing. They are the SAME / difference complementary desires are positive desires Conflicting desires are negative desires.

Enhancing affinity is positive. Detracting affinity is its negative.

You can't read a book until you learn the alphabet and you can't read the game of life until you learn the +/-

+/- transcends every thing and every one and can be found in every thing and every one .   EVERYTHING.

Its absolute insanity. We all live in a world we all know nothing about. With 1 exception. Myself.

Its as if you're damned if you know and you're damned if you don't know.

If having fun all the time is no fun and not having fun anytime is not fun . The only way to have fun is to take sides alternately back and forth fun and no fun.

If winning all the time is no fun and losing all the time is no fun . The ONLY WAY to have fun is to do both .

Life made the fabric of heaven and earth to have both . Eternal Nirvana and living hell. 

Thanks to Dennis and the completion of Level 5. I fell totally satisfied and will die Knowing I made it to the top of the top . Its nice to be here but its not some place I will enjoy for very long. No more than I would enjoy winning every single game I play every single time I play it . Its dull and boring . SO is losing . THERE MUST BE BOTH 

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Re: Problem with the sentence
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2019, 10:46:48 am »
the act of sex is nt just in or just out and there is no up without a down or a left without a right . Both must happen and both do happen on average 50% of the time .

This law of average is in the fabric of the matrix we exist within. It applies to ever polarity in heaven and on earth.

The completion of Level 5 vanishes mental mass . GREAT !. But its just the beginning of the rest of the way to  "THERE "  You'll be alone on that final journey and you be alone when you get there too . In fact there is no loneliness more lonely thn being unified as 1 with all life in all creation.

It is the best of the best once you make it but like all things, and winning all the time. It becomes a negative experience and down you'll fall from the very place you've spent your whole life climbing towards.

The good news is that after you've made your descent downwards to tell everyone about your success, Nobody gives a dam  hahahahahaha

It's easy to climb back up and fall again. I've done it a few times already . I've fallen to the depths of hell and know exactly how horrible it is . I almost didn't make it out alive the last time. Its nothing but death and destruction that seems like it goes on forever. Nirvana is just the opposite . It's nothing but life and construction and the illusion of time doesn't exist. Everything that happens , happens in an instant . Its so fast, we can go there and experience it without a second of time passing with our human life forms. There is no recollection of it either.

So how do I know if I can't recall it  ? The ability to know transcends all life and all things. That's what dennis is trying to tell us in the games manual . All goals lead to a single goal . The goal to know .  I can know anything , brought into existence or not. Its not an absolute LAW or a basic law. Its not even a law at all . It was only his consideration that seemed to make sence at the time.

It may still seem that way for you now but i've eliminated it as a law and I can know ANYTHING or not know anything. I have that freedom of choice.
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