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What is meant by "contagion with opposing postulates"?
« on: November 14, 2017, 08:04:16 pm »
In the TROM book we read:

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Conflicting postulates are called a game. The purpose of a
game is to have fun. All conflicting postulates are essentially a
game, though it may be called other things. Due to contagion
with opposing postulates all games tend to reduce the ability
of the being to postulate.

What is meant by contagion with opposing postulates?

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Peter McLaughlin

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Re: What is meant by "contagion with opposing postulates"?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2017, 05:40:38 pm »
Contagion with opposing postulates happens all the time.  The school system is designed to produce “good “ citizens who go to work and pay taxes because it is the right thing to do.  But if you see that the government is corrupt then paying taxes is the wrong thing to do.
A kid falls in love with a certain girl but she rejects him and he decides he is no good.
A team has a loosing season and decides that they are second rate players.

All of these are contagion by opposing postulates. Life is full of them.

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The silly thing is that the overwhelmed person does not really copy the postulate of the other.
He instead makes his own postulate that can be similar or very different.

The girl might reject a guy because he is not at all the tall and dark movie star type, and she already has a secret lover.
But the rejected guy might decide he is a loser as he always goes broke and cannot afford expensive bikes.

Most people create their own weird reasons for those bad things happening   :-\

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Contagion with opposing postulates happens all the time.  The school system is designed to produce “good “ citizens who go to work and pay taxes because it is the right thing to do.  But if you see that the government is corrupt then paying taxes is the wrong thing to do.
A kid falls in love with a certain girl but she rejects him and he decides he is no good.
A team has a loosing season and decides that they are second rate players.

All of these are contagion by opposing postulates. Life is full of them.

Pete


Like when I make optimistic conjectures only to be automatically countered with negativity over and over again, until I "learn".   :)

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Imo it means that two people who have opposing views collide and become contaminiated with one another if they communicate disagreement. Even if by means of communication one player decides to agree with the oppenents postulate anout something the original postulate he had then became contaminated or in other words it changed his original idea from one to another. For example, He loved bread but someone said there is arsenic in it and he doesn't like arsenic because its poison and thus his postuale changed and he doesnt eat bread because of the opponents view.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2018, 11:09:48 pm by Cory »

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Imo it means that two people who have opposing views collide and become contaminiated with one another if they communicate disagreement. Even if by means of communication one player decides to agree with the oppenents postulate anout something the original postulate he had then became contaminated or in other words it changed his original idea from one to another. For example, He loved bread but someone said there is arsenic in it and he doesn't like arsenic because its poison and thus his postuale changed and he doesnt eat bread because of the opponents view.

... or he decides to make his own bread with good flour made from ancient wheat grains, or he feels so much better not eating bread that he realizes better gut health because of it.... or he researches on i'net and finds out that millet bread is healthier and tastes just as good.  It is hard to box in a being who is in reality an unlimited eternal spiritual being and knows it; however I do see what you are saying can and does happen often. 

For example, if your spouse loves (must know) pepperoni pizza, and you know it is not healthy for the body, but they eat it all the time .... possibly sooner or later you will find yourself eating pepperoni pizza and even liking it (but maybe you take Oxy-Powder and your spouse does not) - is that what you mean?


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Well thats a very broad way of looking at it but imo it is related more to changing a postulate because of some effect. Like turns to dislike. All dislikes are contamined postualted with the exception of physical pain. So what you dislike is a contamined postualte. Things that are generally good and have become bad to you will be a contaminted postualte. This is reactive mind stuff. Below 2.0 on the tone scale. Its not unusual to disagree with torture or murder as these things are natural dislikes. These things are considered to be bad because they dont contribute to a greater good. But if you dont like art then your postualtes about that were contaminated with some opposing postualte. Art isnt bad in fact its inherently good for all. Art is sort of the exspression of anything and granting it beingness. Art is a appreciating creation.
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Aaaahhhh torture and murder - well it was okay after I went exterior, lol   :)