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Jonah Seymour

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Universes?
« on: March 10, 2014, 12:26:49 am »
Imagine a deck of cards, with an infinite number of cards.

No top of the deck, no bottom of the deck.

You can rearrange this deck of cards an infinite amount of ways.

Infinite possibility.

I have always been under the impression that our universes is similar to this.

You zoom in, you zoom out, from any perspective, and it never ends.

And there are individual components within this neverending universe.

So, just like the card deck, there are infinite ways it could be rearranged.

Infinite possibility.

Now what I'm not sure of is if this goes on further to the extent of not only, infinite possibility, but infinite universes.

If this is the case (Which I have concluded, due to the fact that the universe is infinite and limitless, which also means an infinite amount of limits expressed) I find it very troubling, because there will always be parallel universes expressing every possible type and amount of suffering. I do understand that there is a level of consciousness beyond dichotomy and caring. But still, is this the case? Just curious, either it isn't and I get over it, or it is, and I get over it.

I don't have a Scientology background, and I hear Dennis mention "universes" "this universe" "junior universes" and "the real universe"...

Could someone help enlighten me? :-)


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Re: Universes?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 02:25:40 pm »
Hello, Jonah,

I'm not in that place right now where I could speak on this subject.    I appreciate you putting that out there for consideration.

In doing clearing work we all get some wonderful realizations about life and universes, etc and it is good I believe to note them.

Keep on Trom-o-ing :)


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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2014, 10:28:47 pm »
Imagine a deck of cards, with an infinite number of cards.

No top of the deck, no bottom of the deck.

You can rearrange this deck of cards an infinite amount of ways.

Infinite possibility.

I have always been under the impression that our universes is similar to this.

You zoom in, you zoom out, from any perspective, and it never ends.

And there are individual components within this neverending universe.

So, just like the card deck, there are infinite ways it could be rearranged.

Infinite possibility.

Now what I'm not sure of is if this goes on further to the extent of not only, infinite possibility, but infinite universes.

If this is the case (Which I have concluded, due to the fact that the universe is infinite and limitless, which also means an infinite amount of limits expressed) I find it very troubling, because there will always be parallel universes expressing every possible type and amount of suffering. I do understand that there is a level of consciousness beyond dichotomy and caring. But still, is this the case? Just curious, either it isn't and I get over it, or it is, and I get over it.

I don't have a Scientology background, and I hear Dennis mention "universes" "this universe" "junior universes" and "the real universe"...

Could someone help enlighten me? :-)


Jonah
Imagine a deck of cards, with an infinite number of cards.

No top of the deck, no bottom of the deck.

You can rearrange this deck of cards an infinite amount of ways.

Infinite possibility.

I have always been under the impression that our universes is similar to this.

You zoom in, you zoom out, from any perspective, and it never ends.

And there are individual components within this neverending universe.

So, just like the card deck, there are infinite ways it could be rearranged.

Infinite possibility.

Now what I'm not sure of is if this goes on further to the extent of not only, infinite possibility, but infinite universes.

If this is the case (Which I have concluded, due to the fact that the universe is infinite and limitless, which also means an infinite amount of limits expressed) I find it very troubling, because there will always be parallel universes expressing every possible type and amount of suffering. I do understand that there is a level of consciousness beyond dichotomy and caring. But still, is this the case? Just curious, either it isn't and I get over it, or it is, and I get over it.

I don't have a Scientology background, and I hear Dennis mention "universes" "this universe" "junior universes" and "the real universe"...

Could someone help enlighten me? :-)


Jonah
Imagine a deck of cards, with an infinite number of cards.

No top of the deck, no bottom of the deck.

You can rearrange this deck of cards an infinite amount of ways.

Infinite possibility.

I have always been under the impression that our universes is similar to this.

You zoom in, you zoom out, from any perspective, and it never ends.

And there are individual components within this neverending universe.

So, just like the card deck, there are infinite ways it could be rearranged.

Infinite possibility.

Now what I'm not sure of is if this goes on further to the extent of not only, infinite possibility, but infinite universes.

If this is the case (Which I have concluded, due to the fact that the universe is infinite and limitless, which also means an infinite amount of limits expressed) I find it very troubling, because there will always be parallel universes expressing every possible type and amount of suffering. I do understand that there is a level of consciousness beyond dichotomy and caring. But still, is this the case? Just curious, either it isn't and I get over it, or it is, and I get over it.

I don't have a Scientology background, and I hear Dennis mention "universes" "this universe" "junior universes" and "the real universe"...

Could someone help enlighten me? :-)


Jonah

the problem with eternal and infinite is that they are only futile attempts of the mind to grasp what is inherently impossible for it to grasp.

take eternal for example. when you read the word eternal what does the mind say about it? it imagines an infinite line of time. but it isnt true at all. eternity is the absence of time, the realization that there is only, and ever will be Now. all else is imagined by the mind and is therefore inherently false.

the answer to your question then is this: it cannot be answered because all answers you read will be interpreted by the mind and will be conceptualized. to perceive the truth, you must experience it for yourself, or to put it more accurately, you must become the truth.

love from the Self

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Re: Universes?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2014, 11:06:36 pm »
Hello, Jonah,

When I was in the womb my Mom ate a soda cracker and I got into the universe of soda cracker -- I became the soda cracker and identified with it.   Sounds weird, but that was coming from a viewpoint of the womb is a universe.   It is still the "To Know" matrix.

Yesterday when I was doing RI I imagined a universe of cats and experienced that.   I found it de-stressing.

Please read the manual and listen to some of the supplementary lectures -- this is your freedom to be even more unbounded than you are now and with the wisdom to know how to use it without getting this shrunk down again (an not knowing about it).

best,
colleen
 
Recall the NT quote:   "In my Father's house [universe] there are many mansions [universes].