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Yaroslov

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Who is using trom these days ?
« on: February 26, 2018, 02:08:38 pm »
Anyone ? How's it going ? Has anyone made it to " there " yet ? Even for a moment ? What's it like ? Are you able to show others how you got there ?



Thanks and keep on tromin .

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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2018, 10:56:08 pm »
Hello Yaroslov,

Mid-October of last year I started on Level 2. Presently I am part way through Level 4.

My advice is to follow instructions exactly. Read and reread the material to develop the fullest possible

understanding. Dennis Stephen’s processes are fantastically effective. Do them daily and the

results accumulate.

Regards,
Survivor
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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2018, 11:53:34 am »
Thank you for asking and for the encouragement.  Had a great session today.  Having a trom twin who is at my level and able to work with each other over SKYPE is the difference between my giving myself a session and my not giving myself a session - and the same goes for my twin.  We each hold the time and space and are otherwise silent, so it is still a DIY session.

Take someone with you, eh!

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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 12:20:22 am »
I am almost finished with the second pass-through on level 5a.  I have no idea how long it is going to take to complete level five.  I will tell you that I get benefits every single session I do.  Immediately after the session I feel good and more aware.  Sometimes a startling permanent case change occurs.  I reflect on what sort of compulsive games play condition I was in, bordering on insanity when I started around November of last year and the difference is dramatic.
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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 07:41:24 am »
I am almost finished with the second pass-through on level 5a.  I have no idea how long it is going to take to complete level five.  I will tell you that I get benefits every single session I do.  Immediately after the session I feel good and more aware.  Sometimes a startling permanent case change occurs.  I reflect on what sort of compulsive games play condition I was in, bordering on insanity when I started around November of last year and the difference is dramatic.

Great to see you having profound case change and able to stick to it and on Level 5a. The only difficulty with Trom as I see it is sticking with it, actually doing it; otherwise it is utter simplicity.

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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 10:41:47 am »
I do two hours a day no matter what and only about 3-4 times a month do I skip a session out of necessity (like familial or business obligations, or just not being sessionable).

I am passionately curious of what lies at the end of level five.  That's what drives me.
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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2019, 01:51:53 pm »
Just reading trom and Dennis' emphasis on being complementary made me re-think my life and how I relate with my body intelligence, and with others.

His list of Junior Universes made me aware of my current trigger points.

His "To Handle" process helped me run off my parents' covert game strategies which I also adopted.

Level Two has helped me spot and process aesthetic or color hang-ups in a scene.

RI is a big help with my current creative project - being able to get 3D viewpoints and walkthroughs.  RI also once speedily saved me from death caused by too much negative psychic inflow.  RI helps me recover more quickly from an upset and able to expand my viewpoints and response options.

Trom also helped me see the value of calmly back and forth reasoning with others (To Reason goal set).

Trom helped me on social media to be aware of and take another approach to my "arch enemy" - the must not know case that dramatizes infliction as a motivator.

Trom's ethics code helped me be more aware of when I'm having "fun" at another's expense.

Dennis got me to doing more "touching" of the particles of sensation and emotion instead of sitting in a stew and resisting or expressing them, which has been especially helpful while experiencing de-tox somatics.

My initial difficulty was that Level Two sometimes brought up scenes that were hard for me to re-experience (for example an aesthetic implant scene involving certain colors), and I was not doing RI correctly, or was getting over-worked about how to do it.  I did have the CCH's (twice now).  Practice incorporating and balancing RI with Level Two and timebreaking does make it run smoother.
 
From my own experience I have to agree with Dennis that Level Two separates the men from the boys, so to speak - not his own words exactly, and I still don't much like running Level Two, but once I do make myself start a Level Two session I'm always glad I did.  And I'm still weak on doing "another" RI until no more change, and I often get an urge to quickie through it; however I also greatly enjoy that quietness of mind that comes from doing a good round of RI.


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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 01:57:16 pm »
I had trouble on "another" RI until I did this----
Commands:
"Have another create something" (as auditor)
"create me..... an ice cream cone" (as pc)
(an ice cream cone appears in front of me"
"Have another create something"(as auditor)
"create me... an apple"(as pc)
(an apple appears behind me)

So, if I tell the other what to create, I can have the other create it for me.  It's still in the class of not-self, even though it's not a surprise.
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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2019, 02:13:03 pm »

Hello, and, yes, I did have charge come off doing this:  "Daughter, create me an ice cream cone" plus the six-directions process (front-back, up-down, left-right).  I imaged her (because I like seeing her too) all six times handing me an ice-cream cone and I'm still yawning off charge.

I think this way is more interactive, and I appreciate that.  Thank you.

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Re: Who is using trom these days ?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2019, 10:35:29 pm »
I looked over my response and edited it a bit because this is what I do when creating in the class of not-self.

When I create in the class of self, I just put something there, acknowledge I did it and move on.