Trom (The Resolution of Mind)
TROM (the resolution of mind) => Case studies => Topic started by: survivor on October 02, 2018, 01:27:43 pm
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This forum is far too quiet. Where are the conversations about TROM experiences, the testimonials about case gains with TROM?
To give the conversation a nudge, I will give my own experiences and testimonial.
Here is a bit of personal background. Between 1968 and 1978 I took Church of $ services in Seattle and Los Angeles. In Seattle I went through level 4 triple flows, and at ASHO in LA I received Power Processing. In Seattle I also trained as a Dianetic auditor.
In 1977 I was on lines at Celebrity Center and given a great deal of Dianetic auditing during which time I became a Dianetic Clear.
It became increasingly obvious that both the Church of $ and LRH were running off the rails. Consequently, I gave up my goal of doing the OT sections and moved on with my life.
Last year due to aging issues and the accumulated corundum of life, I felt in need of a tune-up, but subjecting myself to the tender mercies of the Church of $ was out of the question. Instead, I went online to see if I could find something that would allow me to do solo auditing.
The TROM Manual was very interesting. The theory was elegant, and the methodology appeared to be doable although level 5 appeared a bit intimidating. However, I was put off by the fact that there was so little online presence. Where were the hundreds of success stories praising the workability and efficaciousness of TROM? Where was the present time chatter about how it was changing lives? What I did find was negative comments about how TROM really could not successfully be done solo.
At this point I might have moved on to something else, but fortunately I found the Pete McLaughlin books on Amazon and bought them all. After reading the books and listening to some of the material on the TROM Help website, I felt more confident about at least giving it a try.
Additionally there was no solicitation of funds or services for sale on the TROM Help website. No Auditor was necessary and not even an E-meter was necessary. These things taken together informed my decision to proceed with TROM.
On November 15th, 2017, I did the first session on level 2, being careful to follow instructions exactly.
Level 2 took a total session time of 27 session hours with an average session length of 53 minutes.
Level 3 was completed in 29 session hours with an average session of 51 minutes.
Level 4 took 27 hours with a session length of 43 minutes.
Currently I am 100 session hours into level 5 with an average session length of just under 38 minutes. The To Know goals package is still running well and lots of charge is gotten off in each session.
All this has been accomplished in just under 12 months of consistent application.
I have not had a single problem running the processes and what processes they are. Repair of Importance by itself would be of great benefit. Together with the other processes it is dynamite. These processes are very aggressive and consequently very beneficial.
In doing levels 2 and 3 I encountered some highly charged pictures that had been encountered earlier when doing Dianetics. These were probably groupers that had become restimulated. TROM resolved these quite easily. Also handled was a major problem area that Scientology auditing never touched.
When first reviewing the TROM materials, the upper levels appeared to be complex and a bit confusing. I made the decision to take it one level at a time in the hope that all would become clear as I advanced up the levels, It was the correct decision, and I recommend not reading or thinking too much about the levels above the one currently being worked on. It really does become much clearer as one moves up the levels.
Doing levels 2 and 3 I noticed that my ability to create and manipulate mental images was much improved by doing the RI exercises. One of Dennis Stephens’ goals with RI was to rehabilitate the ability to be at creative cause. After all, we created our way into the present situation. With the ability to create rehabilitated, perhaps we can create our way back out.
At least half of the gains that I have experienced thus far have come from doing RI. About a third of each session is devoted to doing RI and I cannot stress enough how important it is to do sufficient RI. It is what enables the other processes to work.
Now that I am 100 session hours into level 5, doing a couple of minutes RI at the start of session will cause me to exteriorize from my bank so that the sessions are run while exteriorized. This started towards the end of level 4 and has become much more pronounced the further I go on level 5.
Also, the longer I work with level 5, the more I start to comprehend the ramifications and importance of the material. Denis Stephens' accomplishments are awesome.
In closing I will add one last thing. Do not be afraid to do TROM. It is very gentle. In the last year I have proven that with TROM even a 76-year-old dog can learn a new trick.
I am truly grateful to Denis Stephens for having developed TROM, but I am also very grateful to Pete McLaughlin for having made it more accessible. Without the TROM books I would never have experienced TROM or been able to fulfill my earlier dream of doing the OT sections.
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Since no-one else has replied to Survivor’s excellent post, I’ll try...
One reason for the shortage of success stories or testimonials might be that once something is handled with TROM it’s gone: either erased, or timebroken so that the person has no interest in it. The two complementary needs - to know a thing, and to make a thing known to others – get completely satisfied. This is in contrast to what sometimes happened in scientology when a preclear found interesting incidents but could be left at session end with a curiosity to find out the whole story and/or tell others about it.
I had gone Clear in 1972, and at that time experienced what Dennis Stephens describes as the EP of Level 3 TROM. I could summon any memory if I chose, but otherwise my mind was still. Pictures blew on inspection. Unfortunately, I went into agreement with the lie that I was at the bottom of the grade chart and had to do all those levels. Even so, the bliss and freedom of the moment has never completely gone away. I did the OT levels up to OT5 at AOSH ANZO in 1988; they were no big deal but still valuable experience.
Yes, the theory of TROM is elegant, particularly in the sense that mathematicians use that word. It leads to greater simplicity rather than increasing complexity, and I’d suggest that is a clear indication of truth.
I did less than 10 hours on Level 2 of TROM, as I’ve always found it easy to bring past objects into PT. For example, I began by taking coloured pencils out of the pencil case I had half a century ago in primary school and comparing them to pencils on my desk in PT. These sessions soon tended to turn into Level 3 sessions with whole scenes showing up in full colour, 3D, from multiple viewpoints.
Then 38 hours on Level 3 TROM. It was easy going, and I was able to fully view and vanish some of those intriguing wholetrack incidents that had first been contacted on dianetic and scientology levels. When I left level 3, I got out my old E-meter and found a persistent F/N at TA 3.0; previously I had usually F/N’d around 2.6
I took Level 4 more slowly, no longer keeping an obsessive count of time spent but simply working around the sequence of eight classes of overwhelm as long as material showed up. There were many cognitions, including some about my game strategies (the wording of these got gradually refined through level 4 and level 5). Often after a big cog I’d find “nothing to run”, and would leave TROM alone for a week or more before picking it up again. The great thing is to have sessions on one’s own self-determinism and one’s own interest, not anyone else’s. I’d like to advise anyone going this route: “You don’t have to justify what you’re doing to any C/S, guru, headmaster, big brother, matron, dictator, bully, etc etc.”
Rather shatteringly, I realised that my worst this-lifetime overts were things that I had no reason to do, and neither expected nor got any benefit from. They had just been arbitraries, or things that “everyone knows” a “normal person faced with that situation” would do. Once the charge is off those acts that are called overts or motivators depending on the side from which they are viewed, the whole subject of Motive – dear as it is to psychiatrists and lawyers – just sort of collapses.
I’ve been on Level 5 for just over a year now, still taking it in a relaxed way, doing a session of 5 when it’s needed and wanted. Other times I’ll just run some subjective RI, or go back to some 3. I rarely run into any heavy mass (or misemotion, that all seems to have been left behind at Level 4). There are cognitions in abundance. The first big one came in the first session of the level: the whole question of wanting was like a maze of mirrors, experiences I thought I wanted turned out to be things that others had wanted me to want.
There are also gains to be had from studying the theory of TROM and relating it to life. I’m still with the basic package on Level 5 and am in no hurry to try any junior goals. But I have had many junior goals – both life and non-life – collapse just by inspection and clearing words like accept, restore, misjudge. These were purposes that I had dramatised at one time or another, but it's very clear how they are subsets of the basic package.
Although it's not part of TROM itself, Dennis mentions in The Unstacking Procedure a great technique for vanishing an object from the mind by discharging its purposes. This worked brilliantly when I tried it, admittedly on an object that no longer had much emotional charge for me. Right now, I can’t remember what that object was called – would have to get that notebook out to refresh my memory :D.
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Hello David,
Thank you for responding to my post.
You are probably correct concerning the lack of success stories. Once a thing is handled with TROM it is gone. There is no further interest and it is time to move on.
Nevertheless, it is probably a good idea to leave some evidence of passage through the levels in order to give encouragement and hope to those who follow. It lets them that TROM is doable and is being done.
It is very telling that you find TROM worth the while after having done Scientology all the way through level OT5. That supports my view that the upper levels of Scientology were greatly over-hyped by both LRH and the church. TROM delivers solid results without the hype.
Going around the track, 1A to 8B, on level5 has been full of surprises, cognitions and treasured experiences, each time around the circuit. The TROM processes are incredibly simple and productive.
I agree that there are many gains to be had from applying TROM theory to life. Currently I am rereading all the Peter McLaughlin books in order to increase my ability to look at the world from Dennis Stephens’ viewpoint.
Thank you for mentioning your experience with the Unstacking Procedure. I did see that in one of the books. I will go back and take another look at that.
Regards,
Survivor
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I got through levels 1 and 2 pretty quick, and was on 3 for what seemed like forever. And in case anyone reading this is wondering, yes, I did go back to level 2 several times to see if I missed something, but there wasn't any charge there.
Now on level 4 and it seems to be running pretty smooth.
One thing I recently handled was that despite all this processing, I still seemed to be talking to myself in my head obsessively and arguing with others in my mind. I knew that the TROM was giving me all sorts of other wins, but I was failing to handle this one thing.
I actually just decided to start focusing on what's in my analytical mind more-- simple data. Innocuous stuff like 2 + 2 = 4, grass is green, etc. It pulled me right out of my case and into present time.
I was processing myself to a fanatical extreme, doing at least two hours per day and sometimes 4-6 on weekends. I'd say that I was paying way too much attention to my case and not enough to my sanity.
Once this viewpoint shifted, I found myself in a state of rational awareness that I'd never found myself in before. Not from therapy, not from Scn or anything else.
I am not sure exactly how many people do TROM. My guess is not very many. I think it is because the potential audience for it is very limited. One reading the TROM books who has no experience with Scientology would find it overwhelming indeed. Most Scientologists would not approach it because the Keeping Scientology Working policy puts the fear into so many of us of anyone who researches and goes beyond LRH. Plus not all dissatisfied Scientologists would necessarily choose TROM over all the other alternatives.
I am happy to be such a rare individual that not only got enough training in Scientology so that TROM wasn't such a high gradient for me, but also to have been dissatisfied with the Church enough to go beyond LRH's works.
I want to be clear on one point. I have no qualms with Scn tech at all. It's the church that annoys me, but even then I don't consider the Church to be a bad group. I think they are just stuck in a games condition, or as Dennis would put it, compulsive gamesplay. Scientology has helped a lot of people, but unfortunately some of those people I know personally I cannot tell about TROM, as I would risk losing them as friends.