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Can you see the Must-Be-Known postulate at work here?

"People with this personality disorder commandeer the role of "life of the party." Interests and conversation will be self-focused. They often use physical appearance to draw attention to themselves. Emotional expression may be shallow and rapidly shifting. Their style of speech is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail. They may do well with jobs that value and require imagination and creativity but will probably have difficulty with tasks that demand logical or analytical thinking."

The must-be-known is so busy compulsively creating effects to be liked (inviting rejection) that they have little reserved mentality to actually know the "other".  Some clever or well-advised ones will use some system of analysis to know what effects are best to create,  The best to-be-known artist is intuitive, and competent with their tools, having no fixations (attachments or aversions) re aesthetic components, such as colors or sounds.

I think many You-Tube channel creators are must-be-known'ers and some are very well liked for their looks and charms and personality and chosen lifestyle.  They tend to be upset by "trolls" (usually telling them they are shallow or vapid, or ill dressed, etc.), and will often post a video talking about their trolls' remarks, dramatizing rejection by some "well meaning" must-not-know person who has to make themself known in order to loudly reject. 
Oh, dear oh dear oh dear oh dear when will it ever come to a resolution?

Plus more details in the article link above.  This article must have been written by a "Don't Want to Know You" person, lol!

Level three TROM / Scene Changes Experienced during Timebreaking
« on: April 27, 2018, 12:06:06 pm »
For several days I've been timebreaking a scene of a favorite childhood home, mostly focusing on the house and the property... the lawn, the stairs, the carpet, etcetera.  The more I keep timebreaking/looking the more I see that was previously occluded.  I also can't help but wonder, "where was I?" during that time.

As the timebreaking progresses I start to see more and more details, but then at some point the fixed viewpoint unfixes and I find I can consciously zoom in and zoom out re the scene - similar to that Google Maps zooming function.

Then I start getting cognitions from a higher viewpoint - about creating, who's doing the creating, etcetera, and from that higher viewpoint many similar scenes or related concepts/importances flash by, timebreaking at breakneck speed.

Timebreaking helps return me to a more original, unencumbered, and at the same time all-encompassing viewpoint.

Level one TROM / What Does Dennis Mean by the Concept "The Governor"?
« on: April 27, 2018, 08:32:35 am »
Why did Dennis use the word "governor" to describe the purpose of RI?  I've been trying to ignore that word.

To me RI satiates the mind's need for importances by consciously giving it more mass until the mind goes quiet, and then the timebreaking can well begin, whether at the beginning of a session or during a session.

My view is the mind hates a vacuum, so at the end of the session I also do RI until the mind is satiated ("no more change").

Coming from a scientology background I prefer to call it "running havingness", or a havingness process, and I know Dennis studiously avoided using scientology terms.

The best analogy I can think of is a mouse having a feeding device that is filled with pellets, and the mouse presses the lever and gets the pellet until it is satiated.

The governor implies restriction, and I think of RI as feeding the mind.

RI governs (i.e., restricts) the mind's will nilly creation of importances, and propensity to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

I think, in that context, I am coming to a better understanding of why he used the word "governor"; whereas I tend to think of it as a "satiator" - it satiates the mind's need for importances: sensation, a game, a motivator, etc.

With RI you are getting complementary with the mind and at the same time getting command power over the mind without fighting with it. It reminds me of judo.  It feels good and imparts a peaceful feeling when run to no more change.

I could see myself giving classes in creative visualization per Dennis' instructs, and watching people get peaceful and enlightened about their mind and their ability to create.


Worksheet for working towards a more complementary attitude towards self and another.


There are many, many live sessions on Youtube.

Other technology about the mind / Metta (Lovingkindness) Meditation
« on: April 21, 2018, 02:42:16 am »
A buddhist meditation towards being complementary with life.

As a Trommer you might find this complementary.  As a trommer I would qualify some words with "fixed...." or "compulsive ...", and I would change "control" to "dominate" or "manipulate". 
That's the problem with translations - one must subjectively know in order to fully correctly translate.

What I appreciate about Zen is its emphasis on practice and not so much on ritual and moral teachings.

Other technology about the mind / Counting Backwards
« on: April 19, 2018, 11:01:41 am »
Hello out there  :)

A few days ago I saw a movie about a young woman traumatized. Between the traumatic moments, when she was left alone, she sat quietly and counted out loud backwards from 100.  This kept her in some measure of control over her mind so she could endure and not go psychotic.

I mimicked her practice today and experienced many energy releases - yawns and mind-stuff flashing past.  It worked better when I softly counted out-loud. 

End of test and back to RI   :)

Other technology about the mind / Ghost Dance Write-Up
« on: April 13, 2018, 01:34:51 am »

Pete referenced Ghost Danse by Ouran in another post.  Here is the link:

General Discussion / What if RE This Universe
« on: April 12, 2018, 12:47:05 pm »
I had an interesting revelation.

Okay, what if a creator beingness formed the postulates that hold this universe together, and the game is to play out all possibilities within that postulate set, and to thoroughly understand how to never ever be trapped again and still be a "player".

General Discussion / Here is a TROM Joke
« on: April 12, 2018, 11:43:45 am »
I'll let you fill in the punch line.

What happens when you put two must-not-be-known'ers in the same room?

General Discussion / Before Doing Trom
« on: April 12, 2018, 11:03:31 am »

Sometimes a person needs a therapeutic address to some traumatic scene that is hugely important for them to address first before they can start on the TROM path as a routine, gradient approach, having fun with it, getting "chummy" with the mind.

For example, I had to do aggressive medical dryfasting to resolve a serious medical condition before I could settle down to a more balanced eating and not-eating routine, more gradiently de-toxing and healing the body, and have more fun doing it.

I saw my Trom twin first needing to address something very serious in his mind.  After a few therapy sessions he now is having fun bringing up scenes of his childhood homes, his schools, etcetera, and he is not yet up to timebreaking human interactions - just things only.   But he shows up everyday and he really enjoys his timebreaking and he is getting some "charge-off", or as Dennis would say, "change is occurring".  Nothing gut-wrenching, but Dennis advises not to be a martyr - not to force change.

I've also had enough therapy sessions to cool my jets enough that I can follow suite - timebreaking childhood homes, what I had for dinner yesterday, etcetera.  It's okay to timebreak more nostalgic scenes in the beginning. The road to "nirvana" does not have to be a rocky road.

Neither one of us has fully resolved our childhood traumas - just enough to be able to hobble along in life and do RI and Timebreaking as Dennis instructed, and on a more enjoyable gradient.  My twin is a must-know and I exhibit must-be-known, and I don't know the thoughts of a must-not-know or a must-not-be-known case compared with our thoughts and approach to TROM.

General Discussion / TROM and Scientology
« on: April 11, 2018, 09:47:14 am »

Since discovering and studying and practicing TROM and assisting others with their TROM practices, I am less a Scientologist now.  I am more on the way to being more like a Zen master than an auditor or psyche-therapist.
I thoroughly enjoy listening to and contemplating/meditating upon the teachings in the Tao Te Ching, but unlike some Zen people I am not stuck in a "must not know" about life and the games they play, for it was the knowing that helped me realize I am out-gunned by the techno gods and their gadgets.

Scientologists are avid about "putting ethics in on the planet", and I no longer play the spiritual warrior game - or any world shaking games at this time.  Putting ethics in on myself however is a high priority - learning complementary postulates.

If I did choose to play a game before I complete Level Five it is along the lines of supporting anyone who feels TROM theory and practices is too high for most people, and that person is qualified to address that issue and put in some undercuts or aides. For example, Pete McLaughlin created a file helping others use the Six Directions process for their RI practice.

So I cool my jets, and learn how complementary postulates are also an option.

Level three TROM / I Witnessed the Perfect Level Three Trom Session
« on: April 06, 2018, 06:57:01 pm »
Today my TROM twin ran the perfect level 3 session.

He started with the standard RI that works for him.
Next he pulled up a scene of the home he lived in when he was seven years old and took a tour.
While doing that he ran into a part of the scene where he felt some uncomfortable pressure attached to it.
He then did RI.
Since it was getting late and he had been looking at the scene for some time we ended the session.

He thoroughly enjoyed the timebreaking and wants to do more like that.

When he was looking at scenes of his mother yelling at him he did not enjoy his level three sessions. Maybe it is out-gradient for him and he is not ready for that yet, and maybe once he does get around to looking at his mother, it will all fall apart like a lamb by then.   Maybe?  I do notice that he has gone from lower emotional tones into more or less boredom re his mother, who lives with him.

What do you think?

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