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Level one TROM / Unusual Occurrence with Twin while doing RI
« on: November 13, 2017, 06:21:28 am »
My RI twin yesterday was doing RI very quickly and efficiently so that he could get into timebreaking within our allotted time, putting his creations all around him 360, zip-zip-zip.

He suddenly experienced a cascade of involuntary and very heavy yawning that went on for about 3-4 minutes. I felt the dam had opened for him - he is timebreaking some very heavy childhood incidents.

He felt that he was on the verge of going into alkalosis to the point of unconsciousness, and fortunately the yawning subsided before that occurred.

He is getting more and more interested in his case, but he still needs someone to twin with before he can go totally DIY with RI and timebreaking.


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Read TROM here / Re: New download link for The Resolution of Mind
« on: October 01, 2017, 06:49:44 am »
Dennis said something like - that which is rare and beautiful is of great value.  Thank you.

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Level one TROM / This Lazy Man's RI is working for me
« on: September 29, 2017, 07:43:14 pm »
Creative Visualization for lazy people:

Step 1: Create a new "Pictures" folder called "Eye Candy".

Step 2: Copy and Paste your favorite photos of places, people, objects, foods you like, whatever is important to you then and now.

Step 3: Make some time and space to do this practice.

Step 4: Bring up the first photo or image - look at it, see it.

Step 5: Then put it all around you 360-degrees

Step 6: Stop once you feel relaxed and mind feels quiet and you feel "present".

If you felt something shift for you, then you are good to do this practice - good to go!!!

Note: I also pick on people in my life and imagine things that they might want to create, and I put that all around me too - it helps me relate to them better, and I likewise do that until the mind goes quiet and I feel more present.

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Read TROM here / Re: New download link for The Resolution of Mind
« on: September 29, 2017, 07:40:23 pm »
I've posted a new pdf file of Dennis Stephens' book The Resolution of Mind at http://adarsajnana.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/the-resolution-of-mind4.pdf

This certainly isn't meant to be a "Golden Age of TROM", but just one more place where interested people can download The Resolution of Mind, and in the hope that others will continue pass it on - in any medium, in English and other languages.  This pdf began as my working copy with the typos from earlier editions cleared up to make reading easier. I have also arranged the four addendum sections in chronological order, added a table of contents and used a typeface that I hope readers will find easy on the eyes.

Many thanks to Greg Pickering, and everyone else who have made The Resolution of Mind available in the public domain.

Hello, David. I am late in seeing this post. Do you have a new link?  Thank you.

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TROM experiences / Results of Running Dennis' "To Handle" therapy
« on: September 29, 2017, 07:38:13 pm »
My TROM partner helped me run Dennis' "To Handle" questions re both my parents. Worked real well too - exposed ongoing game strategies I picked up and acted out for the longest time. I'm very thankful for this line of questioning.

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General Discussion / Re: The human ape thing
« on: September 29, 2017, 07:17:16 pm »
In spiritual studies the human ape is a very lonely guy. So called "spiritual people" kind of drop this subject faster than a hot potato. And speaking about potatoes, I recall from the Philadelphia lectures that the great hubbard guy had an introduction that was too funny. He said something like this:
"This lecture will be about operating thetan. But the fact is there aren't any operating thetans around any more. I can only see operating GEs". (laughter in the audience)
And then the guy went on to lecture them about the troubles of spirits (thetans), ignoring the fact that his audience were apes.

Definitions:
GE = genetic entity, the being that runs the body, not the spirit.
operating thetan = a very theoretical state, a sort of perfect spirit.
human ape = GE + physical body

Dennis Stephens knew about the church's ignorance of the human ape and it's natural behaviour. He has mentioned the founder's difficultles talking about the subject of sex, essential stuff in the ape's programming. The only effective action of the church regarding the human ape is something they call Purification Rundown. They acknowledge that some human ape bodies are too contaminated with drugs to enable spiritual progress. Then for financial reasons this rundown is sold to all of their public, sometimes several times   ;D

In the TROM materials Dennis also mentions that the spirit and the human ape will part. But this fact is not a good reason to ignore this earthly creature, you might possibly enjoy the ape/spirit coexistence for a long time. Maybe even several times, I don't know what your plans are.

I have mentioned elsewhere that church ignorance of the human ape leads to faulty auditing actions and resulting case worsening.
A lousy example would be a story like this:

I sleep with my neighbor's cute young wife a few times before I get the idea that this is not so smart. Then I go to my local church to get some auditing on the matter. They will do their normal wrong action of ethics cycles and confessionals on the subject, ignoring the human ape aspect of it all. After a nice "success story" I would come home feeling great. Then a few weeks later the neighbor couple would be back from holidays and I would fu'ck that cute wife again the next morning. And I would actually have some extra bypassed charge on my case caused by my visit to that church and not by my sexual adventures.

What happened? Well, their technology is not complete at all. They don't understand that I am maybe 80% human ape and will in many cases follow the programming of that creature. And you might possibly have noticed that most guys would be interested in sleeping with a cute young girl, in many cases would be happy sleeping with several different cuties every week if possible. This is not because I had a bad upbringing or faulty education or evil purpose or any other spiritual or mental factors. It is because my body is human ape and this is what cool apes do   8)

So the overt is actually: "Following your animal instincts and not using your spiritual good judgement".

But I have never heard of any "spiritual people" being able to see such a concept, it's way too simple. You just have to be aware of that dormant animal stuff and control it according to your own judgement, not according to some church viewpoint.
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Good point about "spiritual people". Doing body-work such as dryfasting and switching up to a mostly fruit diet is my first attempt this life to actually even think about studying about and being complementary with the ape, but I'm glad I did because there is less brain fog and my sessions go better.

I actually watched a lot of videos about bonobos and orangutans (still in their native environments, not driven out like the mountain gorilla).

This was a very very big deal - cleaning up my diet and cleansing until one day I made a firm decision to go beyond human condition. After that everything became more balanced, less obsessed with healing everything that I did wrong with this body.  However after some long dryfasts this ape sure wanted to swing from a grapevine  :-)

The authority on human apes who gave me the biochemical fundamentals (occam's razor rules here too) was Dr. Robert Morse, ND, de-tox specialist, and his many teaching videos.




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General Discussion / Re: Just getting started. Have some thoughts...
« on: September 29, 2017, 07:05:05 pm »
Hello, Jman, welcome to trom. I got onto this board rather late to see your messages. Where are you now with trom?  Would you like some help over skype or google chat?

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Hello, Adal,

Good to hear that you found TROM RI to be like a long lost native ability, which I'm sure it is. I started out using the recording and then dropped it and go at my own pace until I feel relaxed and more "here and now". Sometimes things around me just look brighter. And I do the same for "another".  It's real simple and gets one moving real well doing the core timebreaking practice, and keeps one from experiencing too much discomfort discharging any negative energies while timebreaking. It's a godsend when timebreaking touchy areas... just pull out and bring some things into existence ... and then go back to the hot topic - it will run without so much discomfort.

Have you visited the TROMhelp - dot - com website?  On that website there is a link to the forum everyone seems to be currently using. Pete McLaughlin is the moderator of that forum and the link is on his TROMhelp website.

If you want to talk with a live person I'm sure someone will make themselves available.  I am retired and devote much time to clearing.   If you feel like talking, my Skype ID is ATWTFG. I'm working through Level Three.




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Level one TROM / Re: Some Notes on RI
« on: January 11, 2015, 06:29:18 pm »
Nevertheless, I had a very cathartic Level Two session two days ago.

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Level one TROM / Basic RI Commands from Dennis Here
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:15:59 pm »
This is copied and pasted from Dennis' manual, "The Resolution of Mind ..."

Level 2 Commands:

a) Select a non-significant past scene.
(Masochists can select a significant one.)
b) Select an object from this scene.
c) Find an object in present time that is different from the past object.
(NOTE:  A present time object that you can see with your eyes.)
d) How is it different?

Repeat c) and d) (it's permissible to use the same present time object over and over again if you wish) until no more change.   Then:

e) Find an object in present time (one you can see with your eyes) that is similar to the object in the past scene.
f) How is it similar?

Repeat e) and f) until no more change, then repeat c) and d).  Continue until both c) and d), and e) and f) produce no more change.

g) Select a new past object, either from the same past scene or a different one.
Repeat c) and d), then e) and f) with this new past object until no more change.


Continue the exercise, using more and more significant past objects, until no more change occurs with any past object you care to select. Now do the exercise with past persons. Select them one at a time, and complete the exercise with each person. Continue until no more change occurs with any past person you care to select.
As you do this exercise, and the compulsive games condition between you and your mind begins to break down, you’ll find that it becomes progressively easier to place the ‘then’ and ‘now’ objects side by side for comparison purposes, until you are quite easily able to view both the ‘then’ and ‘now’ objects simultaneously. You are learning to Timebreak.

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Level one TROM / Re: Some Notes on RI
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:09:17 pm »
Hello, any advices I give are from a person with a quite compulsive mind so keep that in mind. I keep it simple and take one concept or scene or object and put it all around me.

Usually my mind immediately latches onto it and "change" occurs. Sometimes I wander off with my mind and then have to place the same thing around me again. I persist until no more change. Sometimes I check in by asking, "How does that _____________ seem to you now?"

Writing about it as I go really really helps me stay focused on the exercise.

I gave a few examples, hoping they would be helpful. I can bring anything into existence around me and it creates some sort of "change". That for me is things like scenes, somatics, emotions, thoughts.

I now don't go a day without doing RI because it keeps me so smoothed out. RI often takes a long time for me though - 3-4 hours sometimes. I hope your case is better than mine.   :)


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Yes, addressing mis-emotion is the first stage of clearing and somewhat corresponds with Dennis' gradient levels, especially RI.   Then Lester goes beyond that and has one look at postulates.    That is where it really tries to emulate Trom.   Lester would have applauded Trom.

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General Discussion / By Ouran: "Postulates: Lies, Damned Lies & Statistics"
« on: September 09, 2014, 06:28:46 pm »

Link:  http://www.censorthis.com/ouran/GD13.html

POSTULATES: LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS
 
0. Let's go way back in the past and way high on the tone scale (Filbert's, not Hubbard's). Beginning at the beginning is what we usually call "native state." This is truth with a capital T.

1. Just below native state is what we usually call "static." This is the singular beingness. It is what exists after native state declared "I am." At this level of the tone scale all theta is one being. That being is you, but it's also me! And everyone else too.

2. Below/after static are the results of static playing a beingness game with itself. The game is played as deliberately not-knowing itself in various locations. This creates multiple thetans -- us. You and me.

In the above, 0 is the only pure truth. It is the truth because it makes no postulates. Postulates are creative lies.

The first lie told (at 1, static) is "I am."
The second lie told (at 2, thetans) is "I am me."

Native State is no postulate and is the ultimate as-isness.
"I am" is a first postulate (which acts as a second postulate to Native State) and is the original as-isness.
"I am me" is a second postulate atop the first, and is the original alter-isness.

From a certain perspective it's all lies: all universes, all beingnesses, all games. But that's okay! Lies are fun. They are our creations.

I realize that someone who has read the "Phoenix Lectures" might think of the first postulate as the as-isness which achieves erasure, but that's only an apparency. It is Native State which achieves erasure of the first lie in any series (the as-isness) by inspection.

The truth is that any thetan is operating at all times everywhere on the scale, from top to bottom, from Native State to cold hard MEST. It is the processee operating at Native State (Sovereignty -- 400.0 ) while erasing in processing and meditation. It is the person operating at Static (Single Deity - 320.0 - Life That Is Not Being) who communicates with other persons (duplicates intentions) in a single "I am.". It is the person operating at what I call Thetans (Multiple Deity - 160.0  - Volition, Coexistence) who says "I am ME!" Below those highest levels are all the postulates, ideas, opinions, emotions, efforts, etc which any and every one of us create constantly.

So please understand that the idea of a person being at a particular tone is an apparency only. It's just not true. We often get ourselves trapped in viewing only a narrow range of the Expanded Tone Scale, and are unaware of most of it. But you can change that, expand your awareness to include the whole range. And when you hit the top or near it -- this stuff comes into view. All our lovable lies.

Ouran

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Level one TROM / Re: Some Notes on RI
« on: September 07, 2014, 09:53:11 am »
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RI, My Mind

The change up that I've been walking around marvelling about is the consistency with which I am aware that, in spite of apparencies, all is "self-to-self".   I feel a resentment towards someone?   I realize it is me against me, and I see an incident from the past before there were bodies or much matter.   I wanted to create a persistent dream so I had to create a split, thus the barrier as described above.  I rail against the barrier and then I gnaw on myself too and have carried these non-life inclinations all the way to present time.   Yes, there were also the life goals of To Know and To be Known on this playing field, but the consideration of force entered into it early on and I could only operate on a limited basis as long as the ancient self-destructive postulates went uresolved.

I see a wall or barrier somehow composed of the postulates "must not know/must not be known," and a lot of feelings, emotions, and thoughts associated with that.   I am on both sides of that wall, however I don't know that, and that is the purpose, and I did it. 

I have been moving that incident around, 6-directions to reveal more of what occurred there and thus to get my attention on it unfixed.   This has resulted in my everyday viewpoint that all interactions are unreal, in that my reactive mind (which got formed on the basis of that program set of must not know/must not be known) wants to make others the cause of any discomfort, and truly the discomfort is with myself -- self to sef -- and what I decided to do with myself and from the viewpoint of the being who can know only what is on one side of the wall or barrier. 

I gave up the viewpoint of the creator ("creator" became a "not me") and now I am slowly regaining that viewpoint too.  Instead of the snake biting its tail or the scorpion blindly stinging itself there is an increased measure of awareness of how this playing field was created and, more importantly, that it was I, in the first place, who did it.   

When I look at others I see "I" more and more than before.   I still get mind chatter and incidents and every phenomenon that attends that, but more and more I can stop and sit while I track it back to that primal incident.  The idea of "not self" is now for me only one side of the story. 

When you can take on the creator viewpoint the interactions on this playing field do become more amazing and wondrous because it is all you -- entertaining yourself -- from that viewpoint and you are able to be more detached, but as long as the "wall" is there, both viewpoints can be valid, and I dare not say more because I would be getting beyond myself at this stage. 

So the prime objective is to "take down the wall" (Pink Floyd), more accurately to be able to take it down or put it up -- unlimited ability.  As long as I am limiting myself from knowing that I am the one who created this universe -- oh, there is the other postulate that I can only know things that have been brought into existence to be known in this particular universe..... I did it to myself.   We are all cast from the same "creator", and we are all that same creator is what I am ticklishly aware of.

As Niz would say (Nisargadatta), "that's not IT!"    I agree, and I do need to get back to my work.  I have known myself to get stuck in a more pleasant state and not want to move on.   ::)

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General Discussion / The "Wall" of Must Not Know/Must Not Be Known"
« on: September 05, 2014, 10:16:46 am »
Imagine you are very upset, feeling self-destructive, largely because there is yet no one else around to "wrong target".   There is only the awareness of a wall that is pushing you away from someone else who is on the other side of that wall.   The side of the wall you are on is feeling "the effect"; the other side of the wall is the viewpoint of a being who made the decision to install this wall using the Not Know/Not be Known postulates, and thus effectively created a persistent separation, creating a game piece because this game piece also had the urge to "To Know and To be Known".

If you find that incident, or siimilar, and keep timebreaking it, you will move out of the viewpoint of the game piece and back into the viewpoint of yourself as the one who made the decision to do that to itself and much of your upset towards yourself will disappear. 

In my experience, this happened more than once, but once I clear off some engrams my mind takes me back to one of these Flow 0 events.

In this event there was actually the whole gamut of randomity and decisions about that.  Be observant for stuck in pleasure moments too,   Love and joy can feel so "right", "next to god".

Still, follow the rule Dennis laid down of entering a session positive and remaining passive -- willing to experience whatever the mind gives up for inspection.

Do RI until no more change, of course.

For myself, running this type of incident is currently making it easier to catch myself "wrong targeting" others as the cause of my discomfort, and I can more directly address the must not know/must not be known that I forced upon myself in order to have a more persistent game and all of these "not-selfs".

For example, this is what it took to handle my fixation on my mother.  "Mother" turned out to be myself that made the decision to split something off of me and install the "wall".   It helped having a mother who did her share of must not know/must not be known   :-))

As a disclaimer, I wish to reiterate that Dennis never said any one incident was "important".   My personal overall importance is to vanish as quickly as possible any considerations of the apparencies of other flows and deal most directly with the earliest on the chain of self-to-self incidents, i.e., Flow 0.

Running the "Yawn Guy" (Paul Adams) prompts of 6-directions of The Mind likewise helped me run off a lot of contention and conflict, which seems to lead nicely into likewise running off "The Body", using his 6-directions method.   One can also simply put it all around you repeatedly until no more change.   However I found that having another create their mind and putting that all around me almost knocked me unconscious and took longer to complete to no more change.



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