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Games Strategies / Re: Assuming the Not-Know
« on: April 19, 2022, 05:53:34 am »
Here's a similar game: someone says you owe them some money and you see their fuzzy minded alcoholic state so you say with emphasis and arms akimbo, WHAT MONEY?!?"  :-)  And of course you are very happy to get this degraded being off your lines - definitely not a humane or eternal solution.

A really simple game strategy that has been adopted is one where, when the individual has been 'caught' out, they make sudden claim that they 'know nothing', with the intention that denial will allow their accuser to not overwhelm them into revealing their true purpose, and by winning this game they have won the 'get away with it' game too.

This game has also, created another game which is the opposite - where a being may at anytime accuse another of working against them. This is of course a total fabrication but the being been accused goes into the real 'I didn't know' position and then feels guilt and shame at their wrong doing, though they have done no such thing.

Level one TROM / Re: Unusual Occurrence with Twin while doing RI
« on: March 19, 2022, 02:55:12 am »
And there is Paul the Yawn Guy  :)

Level one TROM / Conscious Breathing as a Repair of Importance
« on: March 19, 2022, 02:51:22 am »
Usually breathing is unconscious and automatic. However when I consciously breathe - as in Vipassana for example - there is the same intensity of release of psychic energy as when I do Dennis' creative RI. I experience the same "hippo yawns" - yawning off - when I keep the mind focused on breathing as the importance.

Not only massive yawns, but also fleeting by are images and scenes while directing the mind to focus solely on breathing. I have not yet done this to a point of no more change occurring but I do come more into present - everything around me looking brighter - the same as when I do Dennis' RI command. I appreciate the utter simplicity of this exercise.

This got started when I noticed that when stressed my breathing became suspended or ragged and I sought to keep it regular.

However, I'm not dismissing the restorative powers of the RI command, "Create Something".

General Discussion / Re: Thanks to L5_grad, but...
« on: March 10, 2022, 05:23:19 pm »
 Yup, that pretty much covers it all. You expressed viewpoints that are worth contemplating, and getting into those viewpoints too. Dennis was not as eloquent as you are here, and maybe he did not intend to be considering. I am so thankful for Dennis, even though I probably could take a viewpoint of him being one of my creations.  Heresy?

Read TROM here / Re: TROM - Every written thing you'll ever need
« on: February 16, 2022, 07:30:27 am »
Loving it. Thank you.

General Discussion / Re: After Trom ?
« on: February 11, 2022, 02:48:54 pm »
Good self-enquiries - akin to the Advaita, "What am I?", or worded as "What are you?" Probably run it four flows as Dennis instructed with the "To Handle" script. Plus lots of RI.

During hundreds of hours of auditing by a Freezone auditor, I kept expanding out in viewpoint. I even expanded out of this universe and saw a creator type. I was still "me" (looking at a "mini-me, lol). I saw the playground that Ron Hubbard called "The Magic Universe"... fun times there.

Based on many such experiences I can only assume that one can assume the viewpoint of a Prime Creator - Prime Cause.

I do recall some early attempts at what Dennis called "The Surprise Game".
I see TROM as a step by step way to vanish all sensation fixations, compulsions, neurosis, psychosis.... to play or not to play as a free choice. To be able to create or uncreate at will a mind entity, and with unlimited postulate power.  I also during auditing saw that ethics is above aesthetic sensational desires.

All that auditing showed me that as a being I can - similar to the function in Google Maps - either zoom in or zoom out in viewpoints. I also while doing Level Two experienced what Dennis called "The Super Market Paradox".

In addition I saw all that I caused in this universe - not always a pretty picture. I also saw that none of us ever really existed except by cause, and victimhood is a ruse.

General Discussion / Re: Help for level 5
« on: February 06, 2022, 04:00:08 am »
Thank you for the Rolf Dane link to what he calls "Super Trom". I really appreciate that.

Level Five has me looking at the forest and not each tree in the forest - for now.  It is there for me when I am ready for it - limb by limb, lol   :D
With the prior levels I know exactly what Dennis is prepping us for.

General Discussion / Re: What exactly is a game?
« on: February 06, 2022, 03:53:07 am »

.... TROM is not the first place I found this datum.  In James P Carse's Finite and Infinite Games he says a (finite) game is over when everyone has agreed who the winner is.  It's a similar concept.

Before I returned yet another lifetime to Scientology, in 1991-ish I read James P. Carse's book and moved to France with book in hand, ready to bring it up with with the fellas in the posh French pubs.  No one got it except myself, not even the tennis player!! Dennis completed the picture for me.

General Discussion / Re: Please message me if you need help
« on: February 06, 2022, 03:33:43 am »
"I do see that TROM, being too simple for complicated and distractable minds, could use a good undercut. "

That's not really it.  If you look at the glossary for the currently published works, there are 10 words defined.  One of them, "anaten" doesn't even appear in the first book TROM a Games Manual. If you look at the glossary on this forum, there are way way more terms, all of them appearing in just that one work defined. The Postulate Failure Chart is introduced way too soon. It's a ton of significance to absorb at once.

Anyone familiar with the study tech can plainly see that the current presentation of the TROM materials hits the student with a ton of misunderstood words, lack of mass and too steep a gradient.  It has nothing to do with whether or not the person has a complicated and/or distractable mind.

That's unfortunate.  From the get-go I had no problem seeing where and how Dennis was going. His simple logic did not get lost in conceptual misunderstandings. My session that timebroke a large portion of my first entry into this universe and that "wall" of "to know" postulated matrix was huge case change for me. In addition I became aware of multiple millions of years of Scientology track - Earth is not the first rodeo.

I knew Dennis in a non-corporeal existence, and as Lao Tszu, compiler of the Tao Te Ching, but he really gave me a nice surprise with his fun "not game" approach to becoming the best gamer one has ever been able to be - or not games... the little thetan leaps for joy.

General Discussion / Re: Thanks to L5_grad, but...
« on: February 06, 2022, 02:57:33 am »
Hello, Lago, welcome.
I've personally found everything Dennis said to be true in my case, and for my case condition a big help. I recall my first entry into this universe and everything I've done since then, both for Life and against Life, and I know exactly why my viewpoint had gotten fixated here on this very degraded and degrading delusional sphere. Dennis showed me a way to restore to myself infinite points from which to view from, if I so choose.

Games Strategies / A case study of the Jack-in-the-Pulpit Plant
« on: January 08, 2022, 06:31:11 pm »
I regularly include this unusual plant type in my RI practice, being rare in my region, with a unique aesthetic among flowers here.

Here is the Wikipedia knowledge:

It has a furl covering the "jack" that holds the pollen, and puts out a scent - "to be pollinated" (a life oriented goal), but also to trap the pollinator (a non-life goal).  Meets the four requirements for a covert game strategy? Definitely sneaky.

Which of the four types would do that? The scent suggests "must be known" with the overt sensation of infliction, assuming it gets sensation from inflicting a gnat  :)

The furl hiding the jack or protecting it - why for? Is "to hide" a life oriented goal? A must not be known would say yes  :)

Dennis said plants have had multiple millions of years to bio-weaponize so as to not be extravagantly eaten or crowded out.

Read TROM here / Re: "La Resolución de la mente" en español
« on: December 19, 2021, 10:33:13 am »
Yes, it is de-centralized.

Read TROM here / Re: "La Resolución de la mente" en español
« on: December 18, 2021, 04:41:54 pm »
Hello, Lago. I can appreciate the need for a Spanish version. I used to live in Caracas, Venezuela when it was still a relatively decent place to live. Then there are the many Spanish speaking people in the western states of the USA.

Dennis said take someone with you and I have that someone, after some trial and error. It does help a lot.  Going to my study nook in the library is also a great help.

I also believe a new person could have an experiencer take them under wing and have video meet-ups.  For example, I could help the person hold the time and space and stay still and quiet while they do RI and timebreaking (Level Two).  Any former Scientology auditor could do that, and it would still be the sole work of the new person - just making sure they follow the rules, such as running the process until no more change. It's like training wheels on a bicycle.

In fact, I once had a PC who all he wanted from me was to meet up and be there while he ran incident after incident (not a trommer).  We did that for approx. one year and finally he resolved that "lifetime" that he thought he had experienced (turned out it was an implanted lifetime that appealed to him).  I never said a word - he made all the discoveries himself. I gave no commands. Made sure he ran havingness exercise.

So I don't see why an experienced person can't help a new person this way???

Read TROM here / TROMfree Blogspot
« on: November 15, 2021, 02:39:23 pm »

I see it expired in October 2021.

It from where I first collected all the TROM materials, with much gratitude to Pete. I remember excitedly going to Kinkos to print out the downloaded Trom manual - my senior postulate fulfilled.

Now the handover is to Cory and this forum he created. Much gratitude.

Also Pete made Trom books available on Amazon, and I have two sets.

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