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Games Strategies / Exposing some Internet Forum Game Strategies Part 1/2
« on: February 27, 2014, 08:21:41 pm »
Cory, if you create a Game Strategies Section this could go there.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.


A second highly effective technique is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.


Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.


It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.


Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.

General Discussion / Suggest Heading RE Game Strategies
« on: February 27, 2014, 08:15:57 pm »
Hello Cory,

Since TROM is to make us wise to game strategies what if you make a heading for that?

Level one TROM / Mental Masses resolve scarcity of importances
« on: February 25, 2014, 10:14:38 am »
Going off what Dennis says,

"Left to himself he solves any scarcity by pulling in around himself more old mental masses."   -Dennis, TROM Manual

Thus, RI done completely and properly fulfills the need for importances. 

Level two TROM / Re: Some Notes While Mastering Level Two
« on: February 25, 2014, 09:49:42 am »
Good to see you are willing to bust through the boredom.   In Dianetics sometimes the PC would get bored and not want to continue -- coming up the scale and we had to encourage him to continue until he got to cheerful at least.

Also Sedona Method teaches one to release on emotional states, including boredom.   I will put more about Sedona Method in another section of the forum because it does help one address some junior packages.

Level one TROM / Re: RI: Lemon Aid
« on: February 25, 2014, 09:44:23 am »
Cory writes:  Cool. When you say 360 degrees you mean like lemons around the head in a circle? Cool how you felt peaceful. How much time did you have to put into it to feel peace? Do you go through the tone scale?

One Trommer I talk with says to put it all around yourself, generally meaning the body and space around it.   I put up a lemon in front of me or some theme of a lemon or lemons and enlarge it and put it all around me 360.   I stick with what Dennis says about not worrying if one cannot see it very well.   I do feel a change of mass or energies when I put it around me 360 even though I do not totally see it and I'm a bit sloppy about making sure it is all around my body. I just sort of do a swirl around me as best I can.  Just postulate it all around me.

To feel the peacefulness of quiet mind took about 8 hours over two days.   Today when I woke up I started touching things until I felt I could do RI proper.   The peacefulness of mind is not yet stable. Doing RI the way I did puts "thinking" in a whole new perspective.   :-)

General Discussion / Re: Problem with the third sentence of Theory
« on: February 25, 2014, 12:55:56 am »
I ran what you are saying through my head and I got it. 

Now let's run the opposite flow:

How could the use of the word take be right?

You go first   :)

Level two TROM / Some Notes While Mastering Level Two
« on: February 24, 2014, 11:50:39 pm »
Level Two was difficult because I continuously under-rated the importance of doing RI until no more change.  And so Level 2 never quite got off the ground because RI was under-done.

Doing RI so much more now that even during my Grade 2 session (Overts and Withholds) my needle was floating throughout the session and was sitting at the Female Clear reading.  I attribute this to doing a complete job of RI like I never did before.

The second thing I corrected is thinking I had to do anything else other than compare sims & diffs between objects and people, past and present, and simply dispatch the scene and find another one.  Leave the heavy duty work for Levels 4 and 5.  Keep Sedona Method separate  (i.e., "Could you let go of ...?").

Thank you, Cory, for creating this forum.

Level one TROM / RI: Lemon Aid
« on: February 24, 2014, 11:13:22 pm »
This is another working of RI

Bring a lemon into existence
Put it around you 360-degrees

Bring another lemon into existence
Put it around you 360-degrees

Keep doing that until no more change

[NOTE:  You can be as complicated or as simple
with lemons as you wish.  Some people feel that
if they change it a bit or a lot then they are assured
it is a present time creation.]

Have someone else do something with a lemon
Put that around you 360-degrees

Have someone else do something with a lemon
Put that around you 360-degrees

Do that until no more change.

NOTE:  Feeling suddenly high on yourself can
be considered to be a "change" imho.
Sometimes in the process of doing RI
I get high on myself and feel like I'm the
Source or the One.  If I continue with
RI I get to a peace and calmness or at
least acceptance.   I would say that
"Peace" is it -- there would be no more
change after Peace. 

No thoughts = Peace.

Ever hear anyone going around saying,
"I'm the Peace", yes, I'm the true Peace?

Continue doing this forever and always.

Especially do this when you find yourself starting
to think and compute about things.  As you
continue to do TROM or other clearing work your
current thinking patterns will become less and less

You will find that instead of indulging your thoughts
RI'ing a lemon puts everything into its proper

Why a lemon?  Because fruits represent
complementary postulates
(they want to be eaten and we like to eat them)
and I had some stuck attention on lemons.

NOTE:  When I RI'd my mother-in-law the best
I could do was see her purchase frozen lemon aide
and lemon meringue pie, because I was getting
into her viewpoint.   Another plus point for doing RI
is that we build up knowingness about others by being
the other.

This is why Dennis said doing RI can keep one from doing ghastly things to one's mother-in-law.
Once you can create from their viewpoint, you have more options for handling the situation.

General Discussion / Re: Problem with the third sentence of Theory
« on: February 24, 2014, 10:25:11 pm »
Hello Cory,

I think you have a valid question because you recall where Dennis said that the word "create" might be too charged for some people and so he gave two alternative RI commands?

The word "take" might also for some people be more charged than, say, the word "remove from".   He was removed from the room might sound less drastic than "he was taken from the room"

Hope that helps.

You are welcome.   It is good we have that realization.

General Discussion / Matrix Trilogy Decoded -- very pertinent to Trommers
« on: February 20, 2014, 05:10:53 pm »

Mark Passio speaks about causation and so does Dennis.

The electric spark is representative of sensation?

General Discussion / Re: Anyone have any suggestions...
« on: February 20, 2014, 01:24:41 pm »
Hello Cory,

This could be a good thing.   Although there are about 80 people on the NCN Trom list perhaps most of them are not actively doing the practices of TROM.
The people who are actively doing the practices of TROM are quite valuable in my eyes.   And also the people who have reached what one might call a higher state, closer to the Nirvana Dennis describes.

That is why I appreciate the heading you have for people to comment on their progress with TROM.   How is RI going for them, timebreaking?

For the rest of the people on the NCN Trom list -- well, what practices are they doing?   Have a heading for them to post about other practices?   I think you already have one.   You might want to point that out in a post to the NCN Trom list.

I would personally invite Ludo and Alberto to register for this forum because they balance out the mind chatter that tends to build up on lists, their egos largely diminished  :-)

I think we all have a postulate that people totally vanish their minds.   Dennis does have a good piece of work, more than most of us can realize.  It is simple, but not easy for compulsive experiencers.

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