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Trom Graphs and Pictures / Re: PFCC regarding an effect
« on: November 13, 2021, 10:17:12 pm »
Thanks, and I made a screenshot.  Dennis made it understandable and simple to correct.

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Trom Graphs and Pictures / Re: DHS
« on: November 13, 2021, 10:14:30 pm »
Nice, thank you. Sometimes you can't tell by looking at someone what an impact they can make. I always wondered about the New Testament verse, saying that the "meek" shall inherit the earth, as if they even wanted it  :)

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Trom Graphs and Pictures / Re: A little fun!
« on: November 13, 2021, 10:11:37 pm »
A TROM mantra, thank you. Ever think of printing that on a sticker or a t-shirt?   I'd buy it   :)

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Dennis helped me so much in my interactions with others - just observing these postulates in myself and others.


Hey everyone, I made this to show postulates that are conflicting. I think it makes it easier to understand in this form.

Conflicting postulates are:

 ;D  Must be known         VS    Must not know        >:(
 >:( Must not be known   VS    Must know               ;D
 ;D  Must know               VS    Must not be known  >:(
 >:( Must not know         VS    Must be known         ;D

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Trom Graphs and Pictures / Re: Tone scale and the postulates added
« on: November 13, 2021, 10:05:36 pm »
I just saw this, Cory. I did a screenshot and will look it over.  On my own track joy and grief kept coming up as a sort of pair, and I could occasionally create feeling both love and joy. Dennis talks about the "joy of competency".


Hey guys, I made this to show possible areas that the postulates and the tone scale could go together. Fear and conservatism are in opposition. Covert hostility and boredom are in opposition. Apathy and enthusiasm are in opposition. Anger and grief are in opposition. Antagonism is true neutral because its where ones postulate flips from positive to negative. Or uptone to downtone.What you think?

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Trom Graphs and Pictures / Re: List of TROM Materials
« on: November 13, 2021, 09:59:12 pm »
Thank you. I took a screenshot of that, thanks. I have somewhere on a hard drive the "Bubbles" audio.

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Trom Graphs and Pictures / Re: Revised Postulate Failure Cycle Chart
« on: November 13, 2021, 09:56:13 pm »
OKAY and thank you. Please tolerate my ignorance - what exactly is the revision?

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Level one TROM / Re: RI People who represent your exact opposer...
« on: September 15, 2021, 11:13:03 am »
Hello.
If your personality is mostly fixed as a must-know then your exact opposer is the must-not-be-known.
The exact opposer of must-be-known is must-not-know

Dennis in his manual explains how each type's overt motivator cycles oppose each other, for example "must deprive" vs "must not be deprived", "must reject" vs "must not be rejected" .... It's all sensation driven.

It was therapeutic for me to put my exact opposers around me 360. RI shows a being that, "Hey, I can bring these people into existence and I can take them out of existence, fabulous!"  lol  Get it? Dennis was a genius.

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Level one TROM / RI People who represent your exact opposer...
« on: September 14, 2021, 01:27:35 pm »
I just did this and it was great ... did me a world of good  :D

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Level two TROM / Level Two Audio
« on: September 13, 2021, 05:51:21 pm »

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Ethics / Re: Confessing your sins on level four
« on: September 13, 2021, 01:57:23 pm »
I am late to this post, sorry, but it is very timely for me now.  I am in my 13th day of a strict dryfast and trillions of years of things I've done and had done to me flashing in front of me in nano-seconds. Of course it all boils down to postulates and I can see why you got great relief from Level Four.  RI and Level Two are my mainstays for now. Yes, it hurts until it doesn't hurt anymore  :D

If you have a guilty conscience then I highly recommend working your way to level four no matter what it takes.

The relief of being able to discharge my overts without having to write them up and then know that they are sitting in a file somewhere gives me a peace of mind that I have rarely experienced this lifetime.

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If you created your own planet or own universe what would it be like? What kind of biosphere would you create? Magic universe?

Since this is under the topic of ethics, what would be an ethical biosphere or planet or universe? Boiled down to what would be an ethical game for you?

I have my own contemplation of an ethical biosphere.

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Level one TROM / Notes on RI
« on: September 13, 2021, 01:39:12 pm »
As long as energy is coming off whatever you are doing is adequate for the job. Do it until the mind goes quiet, then pick up where you left off.

My mind is not that fussy and will take anything I give it. The key is I have to put it all around me 360 - that's when the hippo yawns begin.

My daily RI is to open up my file of photos and one by one duplicate them as best I can all around me, one by one.  Call me lazy, lol.  It works. Mind goes quiet and I get better (analytical) ideas about how to conduct my affairs.

When doing Level Two I have to RI like crazy at times, or else I will throw the whole thing in the trash and walk away from it for good.  I did that once.... not enough RI done, and there were some unexpected head spinners doing Level Two.

Level Two is for me the equivalent of fasting 40 days in the wilderness that the prophets and buddhas did before they attained to above human status. They both will give you a backbone.

I studied closely those who achieved high human or above human status and they all did some sort of RI.  For example, Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) did re-framing while resolving his past. John Galusha in Idenics wisely has the client create multiple mock-ups. Ramana did perceptual RI walking around and around his favorite mountain. Nisargadatta continued to blow smoke with his cigarettes as a havingness (not recommended). The Buddhists have a "lovingkindness" mock up practice.

We Pandorians must know how to both open and close the box.


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General Discussion / How RI keeps me Trom'ing
« on: September 13, 2021, 01:27:42 pm »
As long as energy is coming off whatever you are doing is good. Do it until the mind goes quiet, then pick up where you left off.

My mind is not that fussy and will take anything I give it. The key is I have to put it all around me 360 - that's when the hippo yawns begin.

My daily RI is to open up my file of photos and one by one duplicate them as best I can all around me, one by one.  Call me lazy, lol.  It works. Mind goes quiet and I get better (analytical) ideas about how to conduct my affairs.

When doing Level Two I have to RI like crazy at times, or else I will throw the whole thing in the trash and walk away from it for good.  I did that once.... not enough RI done, and there were some unexpected head spinners doing Level Two.

Level Two is for me the equivalent of fasting 40 days in the wilderness that the prophets and buddhas did before they attained to above human status. They both will give you a backbone.

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Level two TROM / Re: Self imposed standard(s)
« on: September 02, 2021, 11:55:48 am »
Good you have a good grasp on duality.  Dennis' former work, the Tao Te Ching taught me all that, followed by hundreds of hours of "looking"  :)





I could see images from day one using trom,  but I also did allot of Dianetics and Scientology in the 80's as a head start .

I use Positive AND Negative attributes in my environment for my objectives

Subjects describe the Objects we see  hear  smell taste  etc etc in our mind. They are inseparable and you wont find one without its other half . They are two poles of same item and two sides of same coin .

Anything considered important also grants importance to its absence.

In other words if you consider money important, you MUST also consider its absence just as important

If you consider your children important , their absence is also important but in an opposite way .

Important job ?  better not lose it because its too important to lose.

Importance IS matter . It matters It literally matters and its the same  " matter" as any kind of matter . Matter has mass and density but its the importance that puts it there.

when we love someone we want them close to us and feel bad when they are far away
when we hate someone we want them far from us and feel good when they are gone
when someone we love feels good , we do to
when someone we love feels bad , we do to
when someone we hate feels bad we feel good
when someone we hate feels good we feel bad

This is what the torus is all about . Not so much the subjects but the unity and duality of subjects

We can apply the way of the torus to any object and any subject . EVERYTHING in life,  and its not being used correctly by anyone I know of other than myself

feelings are emotional and are not arbitrary. Its determined by the symmetry of the torus

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