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Read TROM here / Re: The Conditions of Life lecture transcript with glossary
« Last post by TromFan on November 08, 2019, 03:17:09 pm »
Wow, I was surprised to see in that last article how the one guy considered TROM "drudgery".  I feel bad for the guy not getting results from TROM.

But I am fine with myself, though.  I would not have done two hours a day for a year if I didn't find it the most fascinating thing I've ever done.

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Read TROM here / Re: The Conditions of Life lecture transcript with glossary
« Last post by Dmitry on November 07, 2019, 10:04:31 pm »
ok :) thank you!
Someday I ll make this by myself, coz some interesting information is skiped.

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Have you taken a look at the glossary that's provided in "Read TROM here?"
No), i ll check this out. Thank u!

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But thanks for showing me that International Viewpoints link.
If u are interested in IVy articles about TROM - here they are:

SOME ASPECTS OF TROM (IVy 37, p.10)
In "TROM - A Better Bridge?" (IVy 31, p.29)
Some Aspects of TROM II(1) (IVy 39, p.28)
Black fives and TROM From IVy (38, p.12)
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Read TROM here / Re: The Conditions of Life lecture transcript with glossary
« Last post by TromFan on November 07, 2019, 06:38:51 pm »
The only transcript I have is from tromhelp.com of Peter's version of TROM a Games Manual where he includes some of it in the introduction.

I am probably going to skip transcribing that one. 

Have you taken a look at the glossary that's provided in "Read TROM here?"  I made a complete one for Peter's TROM a Games Manual that he put on Amazon.  And I included words from The Creation of TROM section of that book.

But thanks for showing me that International Viewpoints link.  I had NO idea about that book Scientologie that was put out in 1934.

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Read TROM here / Re: The Conditions of Life lecture transcript with glossary
« Last post by Dmitry on November 06, 2019, 08:23:14 pm »
Hi TromFan :)

Do u have the transcript of "The Creation of TROM" lection?
http://tromhelp.com/The-Creation-of-TROM.mp3

I have found one here - http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy17.pdf on page 23,
but it looks like some information was wiped out.

For example: 17:24 Dennis speaks: '...enormous mental calmness... Any time I want to completle calm... when I put myself on a meter - the needle was simple floating. I could do it instantly.'.

There is no such information in transcript.

Example 2: 15:23 - "Oh yes, it was painfull, it was restimulative"

No such information too.

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Read TROM here / Re: The Conditions of Life lecture transcript with glossary
« Last post by mjh on November 04, 2019, 05:12:39 pm »
Nice Work! thanks for sharing
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Read TROM here / The Conditions of Life lecture transcript with glossary
« Last post by TromFan on November 03, 2019, 08:41:42 pm »
Hi again everyone!

As another step on my long-term project to tidy up the presentation of TROM materials which include proofreading, clarifications, and glossaries that laymen actually can understand, I proudly present to you the transcript with glossary for Dennis' lecture "The Conditions of Life".

I am not the original transcriber.  And I give credit to this person this time around, I had to do hardly any proofreading other than adding an occasional comma, that sort of thing.

I did add an introduction and a comprehensive glossary.

Once again, Peter, you are more than welcome to swap out the old transcription with the new and improved one to enhance the quality of your tromhelp.com site.  My work is for everyone to use and publish.

Attached is the transcript with glossary.  You need to be a member to download it.

You can listen to the lecture here:

http://tromhelp.com/services

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General Discussion / Re: One year of TROM
« Last post by TromFan on October 31, 2019, 07:00:55 am »
I think my main problem with level three was that I did not sufficiently timebreak emotions and postulates.  Once I figured out a set of commands for timebreaking an incident that included timebreaking my emotions, others' emotions, sensations, my postulates and others, I got a cleaner finish from timebreaking each incident.  So when I re-did level three for a few months I was much more certain of my completion.

Still, getting an e-meter and relearning how to use it is not a bad idea.  Sometimes I feel like this is taking too long, but now I don't feel so much if it can take another 7 years for level two.  Wow.
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General Discussion / Re: One year of TROM
« Last post by Dmitry on October 31, 2019, 03:56:39 am »
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Then for several more months I would get up to level five, crash, go back to levels two, three, and four, get back up to level five and crash again.

I was in silimar situation :) Reached lvl 5 in half a year then crashed :)
After that I started to recheck all levels, and after that I was doing lvl 2 for 7 years.
5 years without e-meter. 2 with.
My e-meter costs 120$ :D

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So I basically had to go by the fact that level three was impossible for me to continue running.  Everything I tried to timebreak just vanished as soon as I brought it up.
That can be also becouse u have the lack of RI done enough.

I noticed that when I use meter while doing RI - there are a lot of charge uprising.
Without meter I can think that RI procucing no changes. But when i picked it up and run commands - there are a lot of changes. RI can works really deep, long and strong.

Without meter i could think that I'm in a good shape. But when i picked it up - there are 4.5 TA. So my sensetivity was suppressed by the invisible charge :).

But unlike to u , i have zero scientology experience before TROM :)
So that can be only my case.

Now I'm doing lvl 3 for two months. After it I'll try to pass the test)).


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General Discussion / Re: One year of TROM
« Last post by TromFan on October 31, 2019, 01:45:41 am »
I don't own an e-meter and it's been 25 years since I have used one.  So I basically had to go by the fact that level three was impossible for me to continue running.  Everything I tried to timebreak just vanished as soon as I brought it up.  I am now very stably on level five, so I am not worried.
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General Discussion / Re: One year of TROM
« Last post by Dmitry on October 30, 2019, 11:28:27 pm »
Hi, TromFan!

Congratulations on first trom year passed :)

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Over the next two weeks I read all the other basic books on TROM-- Insanity Point, Philosophy of TROM, Expanding on Level Five, Bond Breaking and The Game Strategy.

Have u read the Dennis lection about e-meter and Verifying Level 3 Completion test? http://tromhelp.com/Books1/06TROMTherapyManual6x9.doc page 205
Have u passed the test?

:)
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