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mjh

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Junior Goals Package - Want/Wanted
« on: January 22, 2018, 05:01:05 pm »
Hi, can anyone give any knowledge on a junior package of:

To Want - To Be Wanted - To Not Want - To Not Be Wanted

Is this Life or non-Life? It appears to me to be fundamental / core... It may be in the later material, which I haven't read all of yet, it just occurred to me that it was 'Important' to lots of beings!

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Re: Junior Goals Package - Want/Wanted
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2018, 02:39:21 pm »
Hi mjh
I have not tried that particular package. however, you do have the option of trying it and seeing what happens.  If you get bogged down Dennis laid out how to get yourself out of difficulty with non life packages.

i find i can stick with the To Be Known package though i make it more real to me by changing it to:
forcing on another what they do not want
taking from another what they are unwilling to give
resisting another's attempt to take from me
resisting another's attempt to force on me what i do not want

with these definitions the To Be Known package bites and gets lots of charge to run off.

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Pete McLaughlin

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Re: Junior Goals Package - Want/Wanted
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 06:24:48 am »
mjh and Pete, thank you for bringing up the issue of the goal To Want. It's an interesting one.

I won't try to pontificate on whether it's a Life Goal or a Non-life Goal, and as Pete says it can be tried out, with the cautions that Dennis advised. The odd thing about "want" is that it's within the "must" that occurs in all four legs of the games matrix. If I "must know" something, I want to know it; if I "must not be known" then I don't want to be known; and similarly for every leg of every possible goal. In fact, any postulate is a statement that a person wants to be so, in the sense that they are deciding that it is so.

As Dennis also wrote, it's a good idea to check all the meanings of a goal thoroughly in a dictionary.  "Want" can mean "desire" or "choose".  But it can also sometimes mean "not have", "lack" or "need" - which are all non-life in that they are opposed to "be known". They're negatives and they ionize masses black. 

Some people want to be wanted, or need to be needed, i.e. they're dramatising Must Be Wanted.  This is a pretty low-tone business, and LRH explaind its liability in terms of energy flows in Philadelphia Doctorate lecture 26 'Flows: Charcteristics of'. Many things that people want - or think that they want - can be self-destructive.

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David

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Re: Junior Goals Package - Want/Wanted
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2018, 03:40:41 pm »
In working with concepts like "TO WANT" I always try to be aware of the side of myself that is called the human ape.
This beast (no insult intended) most likely has it's own version of this thing running all the time. And you should not run spiritual processes on your body. Wrong tools.

TROM was created to be run on a spirit (you), it will not repair your iPhone or your body.
I can recall mixing up my body and myself on running Grade 2 (problems) on another type of "philosophy" many years ago. Not pleasant..

My opinion is that this is usually not a big factor in TROM, but I think you will run more cleanly and save time if you stay away from your body's ongoing games.

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Re: Junior Goals Package - Want/Wanted
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2018, 11:19:52 am »
Thank you all - I've listened to the lectures and been reading a bit more around this. The subject arose through a discussion with a friend who had been resolving a moment of conception, where when coming into being had the spiritual projection of his father imposed upon him of 'not wanted'.

In going over this, I think the actual junior package may be accepted in this circumstance.

I am not attempting to run these higher processes directly - I'm still running around on Level 2 - but that will be the subject of another post.