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Forcing to be Known
« on: November 10, 2021, 12:35:46 am »
Oh the terrible things we (I) have done!

I now know the personality of this Class as 'The Torturer' - what are you willing to do to get what is required out of them?

In the game you are in with your own mind, the more you try and bash or attempt to remove those screens (MNBK) the tougher they seem to get!

Do we hold on to stay safe? To protect? To never have to feel that pain and trauma again?

There's an interesting difference here I found between MK and MNK. In that MNK can annihilate the source, MK cannot, or at least not until what they require to get, has been got. I suppose this is why MNK comes next in the overwhelms.

I cannot wait to get further into Level 4, so much data is flowing out. This is still the first time through and there's pages and pages of notes.

Enjoy everyone! What a trip
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Re: Forcing to be Known
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2021, 12:28:55 pm »
Another personality type would be 'The Enforcer', I suppose it depends on who's rules your working!

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/articles/200903/field-guide-the-enforcer-the-punishers

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Re: Forcing to be Known
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2021, 10:26:28 pm »
Please keep posting, thank you.  Level Four and Beyond!!

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2021, 10:33:33 pm »
In my many whole track sessions with Robert DuCharme, the session started out with me railing against an evildoer. By the end of the session I was mum once I saw I too had done same or similar.

That reminds me of an OT5 in the Church, and an OT7, and they both said, "Be the other person - and then change your mind". At least we can get into the viewpoint of even the most degrading ruling calculating psychotic - been there, done that, haven't we all?



Another personality type would be 'The Enforcer', I suppose it depends on who's rules your working!

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/articles/200903/field-guide-the-enforcer-the-punishers

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2021, 11:06:38 pm »
Absolutely!

The list of terrible actions in both the name of Good (God) and for the selfish need of self and others just grew and grew... The more I looked the more I could discover.

Then when I could see how I had done this to myself... The tricks I had played and had to put in place to get it to work... My goodness...!

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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2021, 11:29:25 pm »
Who are these "others"?   :)

I am a fan of Lester Levenson, founder of the Sedona Method. I can't say if he is the equivalent of a Level Five completion.  He achieved his high condition finally working up to processing the concepts of separation and oneness, each. I would say he reached a type of above human condition, maybe.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2021, 11:51:55 pm »
Well there's two options I could answer with.

1) there's way I meant it in the post : we might do terrible acts for our own ends. But we also might for the group, such as the SS officer taking the Jews into the gas chamber.

2) others who have influenced me... That list is huge - but also I am discovering had also become a series of veils to knowing myself... I had to go through that but the more I learn from level 4. The more I have to drop that which I got from others.

However - I have great consideration and admiration for Gary Craig (EFT), David Grove, the early pioneers of NLP even if I now see them as imposer's on the personal system. I know of the Sedona Method, and briefly looked at it.
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Re: Forcing to be Known
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2021, 12:11:17 am »
I concur 100% - we eventually "kill the Buddha".

The funny thing about some of these teachers like Buddha and Lester is that what they tell us to do is not exactly what they did for themselves.

EFT is one of my handy occasional tools when I'm on the run and have to do something quick and easy  :)