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General Discussion / Re: An independent review of TROM
« on: January 08, 2026, 08:49:16 pm »
Just added the Level 5 overview here:
https://theresolutionofmind.createaforum.com/level-five-trom/trom-level-5-overview-394/

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Level five TROM / TROM Level 5 overview (A to C, D is not included)
« on: January 08, 2026, 08:41:27 pm »
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ELSfMG6Jo37ALbPK9Bo0KrQ_p0xGD7xk/view?usp=drive_link

Enjoy!

Inspired by Khepri`s earlier post: https://theresolutionofmind.createaforum.com/general-discussion/an-independent-review-of-trom/

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Ethics / Re: WHAT WE EXPECT OF A TROMMER
« on: November 03, 2025, 12:51:21 pm »
Man, that`s really too subtle : ))
Also, who reads longer descriptions (not displayed for the embeded videos)


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Ethics / Re: WHAT WE EXPECT OF A TROMMER
« on: November 03, 2025, 02:12:16 am »
"...there now must be policies, ethics codes, and rules that every Trommer must follow, and enforce upon each other."

That can be good for the Org playing a game, but not applicable for the individuals dismantling their own minds solo.

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General Discussion / Re: An independent review of TROM
« on: October 28, 2025, 01:36:54 am »
Hey Khepri, enjoyed the format!

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Level five TROM / Re: Bubble Technology and the null-'To Know' Package
« on: August 07, 2024, 07:48:20 pm »
Hi Khepri and thank you for the kind words,

I currently have no info to add to the topic.

As a side note, I've discovered OpenAI's Whisper and it's good at transcribing DHS audio lectures.

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Level five TROM / Re: Bubble Technology and the null-'To Know' Package
« on: June 06, 2024, 05:00:23 am »
Legend says that Genghis Khan used to give "Kahan" or "Hahan" rank/title to those who contributed so much that they would be forgiven the next death penalty. Peter H McLaughlin earned the title I believe.

Since Dennis didn't have a goal to make TROM widely known he didn't write "TROM 101" or "TROM for Complete Beginners".
Those who have a goal to make TROM widely known can surely play this game.

Running CCH on those who are not in a condition to use RI is the working solution.
Just don't mix up the "Official Church of Scientology" name for Scientology itself.

Ron has actually succeded, Scientology as a sum of Scientology tech and Scientologists (those who are knowledgeable in the field, study and apply it with positive goals) lives.
The "Official Church of Scientology" personnel on the other hand has only a small fraction of materials they don't know how to use and are not able to apply.





 

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General Discussion / Re: Expression of the Gnosis
« on: May 30, 2024, 09:25:05 pm »
Love the poetry.
Can you expand on the last line?
> Yet some truths must forever rest.
How come so? Why? What truths?

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General Discussion / Re: The Game of Logic
« on: May 30, 2024, 07:29:50 pm »
Nice, thank you for that!

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Level five TROM / Re: Bubble Technology and the null-'To Know' Package
« on: May 30, 2024, 07:21:49 pm »
A couple of words on keeping the tech.

DHS didn't seem to have a game to clear the planet. How come so you ask? It's simple. He invented the "ultimate tech", handed over to Peter H McLaughlin and left. If not Peter no one will ever find out about TROM. DHS asked not to alter the material but that was just a wish. He didn't wear a hat of keeping TROM unaltered and thus working.

LRH had a completely different situation. He did have a goal to clear the planet (that was actually a first step in the bigger plan) and he did wear a hat of keeping the tech unaltered and thus working (see the definition of technology if you will).

So both of the guys wanted to keep the tech unaltered and thus working. The difference is that DHS wished us not to and left while LRH was seeing that it was done.

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DHS on LRH: ("L. RON HUBBARD THE MAN THAT I KNEW")

Finally at this late stage in my life I can assure you that in 1994 I’m not the same person that I was as the person who knew him in September 1952. I can assure you that I’m quite a different person. The stars are no longer in my eyes. But I think I can view the man much more objectively now than I could then.

What is my final summation and assessment? Well, as a psychotherapist he was second to none and was undoubtedly the greatest man in his field of this century. There is absolutely no doubt about that -that [and] his researches and his additions to the sum total of human knowledge of the human psyche.
...
The man in his field was a genius, there’s no doubt about that. He was a genius. He was a flawed genius. But the man can be excused for being a flawed genius. We’re very, very fortunate to have had Ron, very, very fortunate. People don’t know how fortunate we were to have Ron Hubbard.
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Yes as I say we were very, very fortunate. Most of the planet don’t know how fortunate we were to have Ron during that period 1911 to 1983. And we certainly, the vast majority of mankind, didn’t appreciate his genius. Sure he was a flawed genius. Most geniuses are you know. The last perfect genius, well, I think they nailed him up on a cross. So I think Ron could be excused for being a flawed genius.


 


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Level five TROM / Re: Bubble Technology and the null-'To Know' Package
« on: May 30, 2024, 06:56:08 pm »
> Does anyone know anything more about the Bubble Technology Dennis talks about on the Loose Ends tape?

DHS was a Scientologist and so he was using terms coined by LRH, the creator of Scientology. "Bubble" was one of them:

1. BUBBLE - an illusion or delusion (LRH used it in Saint Hill Special Briefing Course that DHS as we know attended)
2. BUBBLE GUM INCIDENT:
       A) an incident on the track where you are hit with motion and finally develop an obsession about motion. (I wish you to carefully note these very technical
           terms like bubble gum)
       B)  the first incident on the track that has any words in it and is usually the last incident on the track of any magnitude that has any words in it for millions of
           years afterward. It sits there all by itself. It's a verbal implant, a thought implant.

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Level five TROM / Re: What is your level five status?
« on: February 20, 2024, 07:43:59 am »
Quote from: Pattis on February 15, 2024, 03:08:31 pm
Quote from: guest62 on September 29, 2019, 05:53:02 pm
my status is completion of level 5

I started in 1997.

So, can you elaborate how your life has changed with level 5? Maybe you have had some scientology experiences (OT Levels, etc.) you could compare it with?

guest62 left the forum a while ago


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General Discussion / Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
« on: October 25, 2023, 12:53:52 pm »
Hey @Khepri
Here some of the mentioned definitions:

CLEFT STICK ScnMaster
a position in which advance and retreat are alike impossible, a dilemma, a fix.
—ExDn Lectures Approved Glossary: Expanded Dianetics (30 March 1972)

LOCK SCANNING ScnMaster
a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one.
—Scientology 8-8008 Glossary Final approval c. 3 Mar 1990

LOCK SCANNING ScnTUEU
a process which starts the preclear from a point in the past with which he has made solid contact up through all similar incidents without verbalization. This is done over and over, each time trying to start at an earlier incident of the same kind, until the preclear extroverts on the subject of the chain. Boil-off often results wherein the preclear seems to go to sleep. Avoid boil-off for it is not therapeutic and will eventually result in reduced tone. Boil-off is a lazy auditor's excuse to be idle and facsimiles in such Severe conflict that they will not resolve without resolving postulates first. Lock Scanning is a standardized drill, starting on signal and ended with the preclear saying he is again in present time. It can be done on any subject. Above 2.0 (on the Tone Scale) only.

a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one. (Chapter 5, #10)

a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one. (Chapter 6, #12)

a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one.

a process which starts the preclear from a point in the past with which he has made solid contact up through all similar incidents without verbalization. This is done over and over, each time trying to start at an earlier incident of the same kind, until the preclear extroverts on the subject of the chain. Boil-off often results wherein the preclear seems to go to sleep. Avoid boil-off for it is not therapeutic and will eventually result in reduced tone. Boil-off is a lazy auditor's excuse to be idle and facsimiles in such severe conflict that they will not resolve without resolving postulates first. Lock scanning is a standardized drill, starting on signal and ended with the preclear saying he is again in present time. It can be done on any subject. Above 2.0 (on the Tone Scale) only.

LOCK SCANNINGS cnTUEU
contacting an early lock on the track and going rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one.

LOCK SCANNING ScnTech
one contacts an early loek on the track and goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks become ineffective in influencing one.
(HFP, pp. 99-100)

LOCK SCANNING (1) ScnMaster
a process which starts the preclear from a point in the past with which he has made solid contact up through all similar incidents without verbalization. This is done over and over, each time trying to start at an earlier incident of the same kind, until the preclear extroverts on the subject of the chain. Boil-off often results wherein the preclear seems to go to sleep. Avoid boil-off for it is not therapeutic and will eventually result in reduced tone. Boil-off is a lazy auditor's excuse to be idle and facsimiles in such severe conflict that they will not resolve without resolving postulates first. Lock scanning is a standardized drill, starting on signal and ended with the preclear saying he is again in present time. It can be done on any subject. Above 2.0 (on the Tone Scale) only.
—APA Glossary (app 11.7.90)

LOCK SCANNING (2) ScnMaster
contacting an early lock on the track and going rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one.
—9th ACC Volume 2 Approved Glossary

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Ethics / Re: Ethics
« on: December 13, 2022, 10:11:27 am »
I prob start to understand why Slim aka L5grad aka guest62 has left.
At some point in time, the forum started to look weird on mobile.
Had to clear cache to get it back to a normal look.

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General Discussion / Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
« on: December 13, 2022, 04:44:34 am »
Hi there Khepri :)

> as a WOG (I get the feeling that this is a derogatory term?)

Nah it's not :)
It's a fun term that I believed was coined by LRH.

The definition is as follows:
a common, ordinary, run-of-the-mill, garden-variety humanoid, by which we mean an individual that considers that he is a body and does not know that he is there as a spirit at all.

> On 4, I have no idea what you are referring to, what errors have been fixed and by who? Where is this stated and published?

I believe I've seen such intentions/discussions (or I've interpreted it like this) somewhere in the other thread of this forum.

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