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Imagine that you can cross, with your physical body and fully awake, into a space created for just one minute in your room (or on the street, or out in the countryside...). Imagine that you have a chronic, real, and constant physical pain. Depending on the nature of that new space (a parallel universe), within five seconds the pain disappears permanently — gone forever, as long as you remain in that universe and not another one. Or maybe you simply notice that there’s a hotel on your street that didn’t exist minutes before you entered that new reality.

The gain of becoming aware of our vastness can be so positive that it helps eliminate limitations, aberrations, or unwanted conditions.

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General Discussion / TROM, Scientology, Clearing... could they be obsolete?
« on: September 21, 2025, 11:19:49 am »
See metodorsame.com (Spanish only)
They talk about moving with your physical body to go back and forth to other realities (parallel universes), acquiring abilities that others have had (communicating with animals, etc.), bilocation, and other special phenomena. All this within just a few months.

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General Discussion / Thanks to L5_grad, but...
« on: February 06, 2022, 01:43:47 am »
Hello L5_grad,

As a new person in the forum I like to read all the posts in it. I am now reading yours and I want to thank you for the motivation you are generating for me to do TROM with your advice and information. However, sometimes the opposite has happened... to think that if someone has reached the "other side" and says certain things... maybe one should look for another way to get to the "other side". Nowhere is it written that god has to be eternally humble, but...for example in a message from you on 2019/10/06 to Peter ("What to do after TROM"), I felt what in Spain we call "vergüenza ajena" (I don't know what would be the most accurate translation).

The reason for my message is to ask you for clarification about a comment of yours on 2019/01/10 -What is life-:

"...The only past lives we have and can address are the lives of our parents and their parents and their parents. When we die, the DNA of our parents within us also dies unless we have children..."

When in the TOM manual, Dennis Stephens says "...So you can know what happened in the past of this universe, whether you were present when it happened or not. You can observe the fall of Carthage, the crucifixion of Christ, etc...".

Are they different realms or is it the same thing and you now have a different point of view than Dennis?

Thanks :)

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Read TROM here / Re: "La Resolución de la mente" en español
« on: December 19, 2021, 05:30:51 am »
Hello Karelee,

My comment was in relation to the person approaching Trom knowing that at this time the information/help, although available, is decentralized.

You comment in this thread about the possibility of remote help, I have found in a web site a great chronological summary of Dennis' articles, on the other hand I have found in the forum suggestions from tromers to expand the execution of RI, etc... The information/help may exist but aspiring tromers should be aware that it is dispersed, that you have to work at it. I'm not criticizing it, just stating it.

Thanks for your appreciation.

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Read TROM here / "La Resolución de la mente" en español
« on: December 18, 2021, 09:22:11 am »
He traducido al idioma español “La Resolución de la Mente” (la edición pública de 2016). Sin llegar a ser una traducción profesional, espero que permita al hispanohablante a tener una noción de qué es TROM e incluso de poder llevar a la práctica sus ejercicios. Te la puedes descargar en el siguiente enlace (pégalo en un buscador): 

https://mega.nz/folder/EYsTQA6b#lfjQDQgGdCP9dGqAU76V9A

Cuando busqué por internet toda la información posible acerca de TROM, llegué a la conclusión que sus inicios fueron como fueron porque no había una “organización” por detrás, que agrupara la documentación existente de manera cronológica, que el material fuera más claro, que hubiera un lugar donde dirigirse para poder aclarar dudas, que lo hubieran traducida a otros idiomas, etc… Su contrapartida es que ofrece unos ejercicios que pueden ser realizados en solitario, con la libertad de adaptar términos (para que se adecuen a nuestro caso) y procesos (para mejorar su efectividad).

Es por eso que, en relación a otras “prácticas”, encontrar el camino de salida con TROM  puede parecer la Ley de la Selva, porque no tienes al “experto” a tu lado que a cambio de dinero y de tenerte controlado aparentemente te ofrece su mano durante el camino, que por cierto, él decide cual debe ser… Aquí, la decisión la tomas tú…¿Quieres ser Tarzán?.


I have translated into Spanish "The Resolution of the Mind" (the 2016 public edition). Without being a professional translation, I hope that it will allow the Spanish speaker to have a notion of what TROM is and even to be able to put its exercises into practice. You can download it at the following link (paste it in a search engine): 

https://mega.nz/folder/EYsTQA6b#lfjQDQgGdCP9dGqAU76V9A

When I searched the internet for all possible information about TROM, I came to the conclusion that its beginnings were as they were because there was no "organization" behind it, that grouped the existing documentation chronologically, that the material was clearer, that there was a place to go to clarify doubts, that it had been translated into other languages, etc... Its counterpart is that it offers exercises that can be performed alone, with the freedom to adapt terms (to suit our case) and processes (to improve its effectiveness).

That is why, in relation to other "practices", finding the way out with TROM may seem like the Law of the Jungle, because you do not have the "expert" by your side who in exchange for money and to have you under control apparently offers you his hand along the way, which by the way, he decides what it should be... Here, the decision is yours... Do you want to be Tarzan...?

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General Discussion / Re: Help for level 5
« on: November 27, 2021, 05:42:30 pm »
Hello Dmitry,

Thank you for your information. A simple sentence of yours in the answer "You create two postulates in opposition..." has helped me a lot in understanding how to start in the future level 5.

I have not started TROM yet. When I say I have understanding I mean that what I have translated and read is material that I can use to do TROM with assurance.

I don't know how easy it must be for English speakers to understand how to read the TROM documentation in their own language. But I can tell you from my experience that translating certain information online into Spanish is a chaos. I can give you as an example the 8 classes of overwhelm and its definition. It appears from the Spanish usage of the verbs “Saber/Conocer” that 1. “Forced to know” and 5. “Forced to be known” have the same translation. From there...

Thanks for the advice not to do anything before the previous levels are finished. I wouldn't even think of it, out of respect for what I already know.

Years ago I was declared Clear in the Freezone. And now I'm looking forward to continuing to blaze the trail.

Thank you.

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General Discussion / Help for level 5
« on: November 26, 2021, 12:59:18 pm »
Hello, I am new to the forum. I am a Spanish speaker and I live in Spain. I have decided to do TROM and I am using online translators to translate the documentation. I have complete understanding of levels 2, 3 and almost level 4. But I find level 5 more complex. With the translations I don't have enough to understand the basic procedure of handling, for example, 1A.

I have found additional information that has helped me for a better understanding of TROM at http://rolfdane.com/TROMtech/trom.htm. But I am still stuck in understanding the first step of level 5, even after reading Dennis' lecture : "The Tape transcript by Mr Stephens for running level 5".

Could someone, in his own words, tell me how he does the procedure of step 1A of the postulate failure cycle chart?

Thanks.

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