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Level one TROM / Re: Dynamic meditations as a substitute of R.I.
« Last post by Dmitry on October 08, 2025, 08:02:04 am »
Also Dynamic meditation completely fits with TROM theory.

What does TROM theory tell us about releasing the charge? It tells us that charge consists of contradictory postulates. And we have to apply complementary postulates to release the charge, to vanish it.

What are we doing during dynamic meditation?
1) Determining what my hand wants to do -> identifying a postulate.
2) Doing it -> applying a complementary postulate to it.

You can do TROM and measure the time taken by a standard RI afterwards. You can also do TROM followed by dynamic meditation and measure the time. RI will be flattened after Dynamic meditation which tells us that it's correct substitute for RI.

Dynamic meditation works faster, especially if you do it near a mirror. A mirror helps create distance between you and your body, and the charge releases more quickly.

Of course, try this at your own risk, and results may vary. If something doesn't feel right, immediately revert to the standard procedure.

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Level three TROM / Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
« Last post by Dmitry on October 08, 2025, 07:44:56 am »
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Once you've gotten to the point where every time you try to timebreak something it just vanishes right back into the past, it's time to do level four

Hey :)

I have an e-meter and I've read lvl3 completion test by DHS.
And I'm still failing the test.

lvl4 and lvl5 are not working for me  ;D

DHS has incredible good vision, good technicolor re-calls, you can find this in hes reminiscences.
I have not, but I believe that it's possible to reach such levels of re-calls. I'm still working on it with good progress.

 :D
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Level three TROM / Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
« Last post by TromFan on October 08, 2025, 06:41:06 am »
Once you've gotten to the point where every time you try to timebreak something it just vanishes right back into the past, it's time to do level four.

THAT'S how you find charge on your case without using a meter. Levels four and five. Do those commands (when it's time) and I assure you, you'll find all the charge you ever hoped to.
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Level one TROM / Re: Dynamic meditations as a substitute of R.I.
« Last post by TromFan on October 08, 2025, 06:34:40 am »
First off, if you feel 'charged' after a level two session, first consider whether you've done the exercise properly or not.

Also, you have 'charged' mental masses coming in at you because you did not completely fill that void with RI.

What turns it on will turn it off. So therefore, going to some separate practice to handle it is not recommended.

Make absolutely sure you don't leave a level two object or person until you flatten it. Make absolutely sure you don't abandon RI until you flatten that.

That's all you need to do.

That said, if you want to do this other meditation thing when you are not in session, that's one thing. But as a substitute for RI I do not recommend this to anyone.

I used to do Self Analysis myself, as my havingness got really low between sessions. But I STILL did plenty of RI before, after and during my TROM sessions. I learned if you are going to practice some other spiritual practice, you need to do it outside of your TROM session.

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Trom Graphs and Pictures / Re: DHS
« Last post by Dmitry on October 07, 2025, 08:38:06 pm »
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Case studies / Re: Synchronicity
« Last post by Dmitry on October 07, 2025, 12:19:38 am »
I've been experiencing a lot of synchronicities when trying out the "Medici Solitaire" practice. This practice is somewhat similar to the Tarot.

You simply take a deck of cards in the morning, shuffle them, and ask - what card represents my day today? And then you draw one. Usually, the day turns out to be very much aligned with the description of that card.

Suits -

•  Spades – displays of willpower and strength.
•  Diamonds – everything related to money, but also - interest in a broad sense.
•  Hearts – the emotional sphere. Love, friendship, hatred – in other words, any emotional expression.
•  Clubs – daily life, work, routine.

Ranks

Ace – a force acting upon us and beyond our control. Fate. Chance. Any external event that happens not by our will and compels us to take some actions, to respond to it.

King – law. The need to obey certain rules, to act in a certain way. Everything that imposes limitations on us, from physical laws to the criminal code, forces us to act within the framework created by external forces.

Queen – a person. Any living being of any gender and biological species. A neighbor, a lover, a butterfly, Uncle Stepa the policeman. There can be any number of them. Affects us and perceives our impact on them.

Jack – a "courier of power." This is your card. It represents your desires, decisions, impulses, you as the executor of your intention. What inside you makes you act in one way or another - a reasonable decision, ambition, resentment, etc.

10 – result, fruit, expectation. The consequence of actions, mostly yours.

9 – our action, what we give "from ourselves" to the outside world – both actions and words.

8 – communication, contact. Any interaction with living objects of the world – both conversation and fight, and meeting.

7 – absorption. What we take "into ourselves" - from food to impressions from communicating with a friend or visiting a fortune teller.

6 – road, movement. From a trip to work to the movement of your money to an offshore account.
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Level one TROM / Dynamic meditations as a substitute of R.I.
« Last post by Dmitry on October 07, 2025, 12:11:23 am »
Hi everyone.

I'd like to suggest a homemade process that can replace "RI" to some extent. It's "dynamic meditation." After practicing "Level 2 TROM," there's a lack of "RI" a lack of mass, and that's just how it is. But I've also noticed that after a Level 2 session, I'm not in a void. On the contrary, I'm kind of swamped with charge. And it needs to be cleared away. The usual "RI" exercises that Stephens suggested do clear it, but they mostly fill in the gaps, not remove unpleasant charges. Whereas "dynamic meditation" both fills the void (because sensations are created during body movement) and clears away the charges (because suppressed information from the past manifests in the present).

Dynamic Meditation

This is a simple practice that allows you to both manifest and process charge.

Instructions:

a) Choose a hand.
b) Where do you want to move, bend, or rotate it?
c) Do it (move, bend, or rotate).
d) Repeat from step a.

Repeat the cycle a - b - c.
If the hand goes beyond its possible range of motion, return it to its starting position.
If you don't want to move it anywhere, it means you want to hold it in place. So hold it in place for a few seconds, then repeat from a - b - c.
After performing several cycles, the process begins automatically. A persistent feeling arises that "I" am not moving the hand. That the hand is trying to draw or express something unpleasant, something repressed. Outbursts of charge may begin – entire groups of changes in state and sensations that temporarily completely capture attention.

How does it work? Stress and charge are a desire + the inability to fulfill it. And in meditation, we look at the desire and immediately fulfill it, albeit in a primitive form.

Variations:

a) Where do I want to move my finger? Ask, "Where to?" Move it.
This variation is very useful because you won't be able to wave your arms for long – you'll get tired, and it's too noticeable. Whereas, if you move your finger, you can do it all day long.

b) What body position do I want to take? Ask, "Which one?" Take it.
Here, the work is with the entire body as a whole.

c) Dynamic Meditation with an Object:
The same thing, but an object, like a coin, is taken in the hand. And the question changes to – "Where do I want to move it?" Then the object is moved.
It works more gently because all the surfacing charge is projected onto the object, rather than the body. This is the gentlest option if there are very strong, unbearable sensations or surges of charge – it's best to do only this one.
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Level three TROM / Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
« Last post by Dmitry on October 06, 2025, 11:53:42 pm »
Hello everyone!

It seems I've figured out what my problem was with the level 3 scenes.
The problem lies with my mental perceptions; in other words, I have a "black field case."
So, I started working on it and have made some progress with my initial request.
The reason for my poor mental perceptions is over-concentration on my physical perceptions (the perceptions of my body). They are over-charged and completely pulling my attention towards them.
So, I can't take part of my attention away and move it to past scenes.
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Level two TROM / Re: Question about level Two with past persons (2)
« Last post by Dmitry on October 06, 2025, 11:40:40 pm »
Hello Ton RB and TromFan,

here you may find some additional info about 2lvl by Vladimir, you can use chatGPT to translate it from Russian (BB = RI):

1) lvl2 with objects:
https://tromfree.blogspot.com/2013/02/2.html

2) lvl2 with persons:
https://tromfree.blogspot.com/2012/04/2.html


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General Discussion / Re: TROM, Scientology, Clearing... could they be obsolete?
« Last post by TromFan on September 21, 2025, 09:20:28 pm »
Well, you have to look at the purposes of each of these activities, and I will assuming each of them can actually produce the intended results.

Scientology Clearing and TROM exercises aim to rid you of your aberrations.

What you are describing looks like being able to acquire new abilities.

Now if you were talking about a superior method of ridding oneself of aberrations, that could possibly make Scientology or even TROM obsolete.

I've been asked this about TROM, whether or not it makes Scientology obsolete, and I tell them, in my honest opinion, "no".

TROM may be more advanced, but Scientology lays the foundation for TROM, much like mathematics lays the foundation for Algebra.

And Dennis did not improve upon every aspect of Scientology. He handled ONE problem-- being able to go Clear and above working by oneself.  He did not improve the study tech, the admin tech, or come up with new Training Routines. TROM is almost entirely "Negative Gain" (getting rid of the bad) while Scientology has Negative and positive gain aspects to it.

What you are describing seems entirely "positive gain".  Doing cool stuff like visiting alternate realities isn't going to rid you of your reactive mind.

On a personal note, things like visiting alternate realities and learning new abilities sounds intriguing, if in fact you do learn that. As for me, I'm going to rid myself of my bank first before I explore doing any kind of magic tricks.
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