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General Discussion / Re: Noticing No More Change and Balancing the process
« Last post by TromFan on January 08, 2025, 04:12:18 am »
Pete wrote:

One of the good things about TROM is that you can experiment with how you apply it to your case at will.

I don't recommend this. I recommend doing it the way Dennis wrote it in the manual.

TROM is a comprehensive program intended to achieve a finite result. It's not just some sort of first aid.

And if you mis-apply TROM, yeah, doing some R.I. will stabilize your case, but it's going to take more than that to un-do the damage.  If you read and understand the manual you'll know Dennis talks about how you'll need repairs that go beyond "a little bit of R.I." even if it's just because you made a mistake (like running a goals package that turns out to be non-life, just for example).

Now Peter is saying you can just 'experiment' with it?

This is dangerous advice.
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Level one TROM / Re: Perceptive RI for One Hour?
« Last post by TromFan on January 08, 2025, 03:58:36 am »
Pete wrote

The goal with TROM processes is to increase you ability to focus your attention on what you are doing now from 5 minutes at a streach to 10 minutes at a streach without having something distract you.  It’s about your ability to persist on a given course despite difficulty.


Ummm.... no.

While being able to focus your attention certainly is a desirable skill, the actual goal of TROM processing is to end the state of compulsive games play you are in, and move into a state where you can shift between a no-game state and voluntary game state at will.

At no point does Dennis say R.I. should be used as a tool for seeing how long you can focus your attention. R.I. is used to replace lost mental mass with your own creations and orient you to the present.  You can do R.I. past the point it accomplishes this without having to worry about over-run, and that's all he has to say about it.

Peter is stating his own purpose, not the purpose of R.I. or TROM.

So don't get wrapped up in this 'other purpose' when doing TROM. You can waste a lot of session time seeing just how long you can do R.I. when you've gone past the flat point.

If it amuses you to do R.I. marathons to see how long you can focus your attention, fine. But Peter, don't go telling people this is the goal of TROM. It's not.


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General Discussion / THE BEST Level 1 (RI) Video we've made yet.
« Last post by TromFan on January 07, 2025, 08:55:25 am »
-New voiceover technology that makes Allison's voice sound natural and expressive.
-New footage woven in making key TROM concepts clearer
-An addendum addressing common mistakes.

I put my heart and soul into this second remake of the most important video we have on the YouTube channel, and I humbly offer it as a tool to anyone who is interested in TROM to clarify the subject and make its application easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Pb2pmLuds
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TROM experiences / Why I Left Scientology & Now do TROM
« Last post by TromFan on December 29, 2024, 06:53:20 pm »
Here is the latest edition of the most popular video on our channel, edited and enhanced with a smoother, more natural voiceover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXzElTLLrhE
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Read TROM here / TROM 2023 Online Edition with Video Support
« Last post by TromFan on December 20, 2024, 08:31:20 am »
For those of you who don't already know, I did a revision of Dennis' original manual. I did not leave any of his words out of it, but I changed the order of the chapters to make a more logical progression from basic concepts to more advanced, put in annotations, a full glossary, cut-ins from the lectures, and even some illustrations.  It's the very best way for a layman to understand TROM, and I put it out around Spring of 2023.
What you may not know is in summer of this year, I put up an online edition of this book that has the relevant videos interspersed with the text. What that means to you, is that if you want some further clarity on what you are reading, you can just click on that video that shows up in the chapter you are reading.
You can read it here:
https://sites.google.com/bettertrom.com/bettertrom/home/trom-2023-online-version

You can also download TROM 2023 in PDF, as well as download Khepri's "TROM the full package" which includes the original manual as well as lecture transcripts straight from the BetterTROM.com home page.

https://sites.google.com/bettertrom.com/bettertrom/home?authuser=0

Be advised that "TROM the full package" is not a DIY Salvation publication. It contains the original TROM manual and that work is just the verbatim "The Resolution of Mind a Games Manual" that does not include any enhancements, but TROM the full package does at least come with a limited glossary based on the one that I created for this forum in 2019.
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General Discussion / TROM Mastery Course
« Last post by TromFan on December 17, 2024, 08:51:23 am »
I have begun what may be my final project, and that is a series of audio presentations on TROM, including original lectures by Dennis Stephens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3FnDw8ZJZw&list=PLHxndOzKf0tB5Dz6MofTg0dj-oMyM3Qi8

I'll also have a more limited video series I am working on which you can find here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHxndOzKf0tCepkIvJTvu1OJ2-Nclt6jQ

And if I ever find the time, I'm going to integrate it all into a special course on TROM Mastery on BetterTROM.com .

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General Discussion / Re: Is there anybody out there?
« Last post by Khepri on December 16, 2024, 08:38:51 am »
Still present and winning everyday! Hope you are too, staying away from little pin pricks
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General Discussion / Re: Is there anybody out there?
« Last post by TromFan on December 16, 2024, 08:37:37 am »
Yes.
You can message me here, you can write me at Roger@BetterTROM.com
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General Discussion / Is there anybody out there?
« Last post by EthanLovetherst on December 16, 2024, 05:16:58 am »
Just nod if you can hear me ;)
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