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General Discussion / Re: R.I. Taught Wrong
« Last post by TromFan on October 28, 2024, 12:25:51 pm »
Yeah, that's my channel. I also am the one who put out TROM 2023, which is an enhanced version of the original manual.
THE BEST way to learn TROM is to go to BetterTROM.com and read the online version of TROM 2023 which has the relevant videos in-line with the text.
It's my TROM-instruction masterpiece.
Feel free to write me anytime via this forum or at tromguides@gmail.com or Roger@BetterTROM.com .

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General Discussion / Re: R.I. Taught Wrong
« Last post by a5a5a9 on October 28, 2024, 12:06:56 pm »
Hi TromFan, are you the owner of that Youtube Channel ?

I am restarting Level 2 so I need to watch those tubes to get more clarity on what went wrong.
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Level one TROM / R.I. Instruction Video UPDATED Jan 2025
« Last post by TromFan on October 14, 2024, 05:00:48 am »
Jan 2025 update to my post I made in Oct 2024

-New voiceover technology that makes Allison's voice sound natural and expressive.
-New footage woven in making key TROM concepts clearer
-An addendum addressing common mistakes.

I put my heart and soul into this second remake of the most important video we have on the YouTube channel, and I humbly offer it as a tool to anyone who is interested in TROM to clarify the subject and make its application easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Pb2pmLuds&t=164s



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Level four TROM / TROM lvl 4 video
« Last post by TromFan on September 29, 2024, 04:21:54 am »
An instructional video on TROM Level Four:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrKPpvPurSM
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General Discussion / R.I. Taught Wrong
« Last post by TromFan on September 24, 2024, 09:33:10 am »
This is also posted in the Level One section of the forum but I should post it here too. It's just that important to know that the R.I. Instructions on Pete's TromHelp.org website are very mistaken, and as it is my mission to inform others on the correct way to do TROM in terms they can understand, here it is:

This video compares the wrong way Pete shows you how to do R.I. on his tromhelp.org website to the correct technique according to the manual.  For starters, he doesn't even give the correct definition of what an 'importance' is, and there are other issues with it as well. Watch this video, and you'll have more effective R.I. sessions as a result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PLupiusPuc&t=1s

(I updated this video on October 2, 2024)

What Peter is teaching is so far afield from TROM, he should name it something else. 

There are actually even more flaws in Pete's instructions than are pointed out on this video. For starters, you don't interrupt a 'guided session' with further instructions on how to perform it. You instruct first, then guide uninterrupted. Also, one of my consultants pointed out that Peter's 'rub out the unconsciousness' technique violates the principal of "What turns it on will turn it off" and that I needed to emphasize more in the video that by 'rubbing out' sensations during R.I. you are robbing yourself of the benefit of the exercise. In other words, you don't 'rub it out' so you can get 'back into session'. Unconsciousness surfacing and then blowing as a result of CONTINUING TO CREATE IMPORTANCES AROUND YOU is the whole point.

I may do an updated cut of this video and include that, but for now I'll just include it here.
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Level one TROM / R.I. Taught Wrong (There you go again, Peter)
« Last post by TromFan on September 22, 2024, 06:39:17 am »
This video compares the wrong way Pete shows you how to do R.I. on his tromhelp.org website to the correct technique according to the manual.  For starters, he doesn't even give the correct definition of what an 'importance' is, and there are other issues with it as well. Watch this video, and you'll have more effective R.I. sessions as a result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PLupiusPuc&t=1s

(I updated the video October 2, 2024)

What Peter is teaching is so far afield from TROM, he should name it something else. 

There are actually even more flaws in Pete's instructions than are pointed out on this video. For starters, you don't interrupt a 'guided session' with further instructions on how to perform it. You instruct first, then guide uninterrupted. Also, one of my consultants pointed out that Peter's 'rub out the unconsciousness' technique violates the principal of "What turns it on will turn it off" and that I needed to emphasize more in the video that by 'rubbing out' sensations during R.I. you are robbing yourself of the benefit of the exercise. In other words, you don't 'rub it out' so you can get 'back into session'. Unconsciousness surfacing and then blowing as a result of CONTINUING TO CREATE IMPORTANCES AROUND YOU is the whole point.

I may do an updated cut of this video and include that, but for now I'll just include it here.
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Level five TROM / Re: Bubble Technology and the null-'To Know' Package
« Last post by JayDee on August 07, 2024, 07:48:20 pm »
Hi Khepri and thank you for the kind words,

I currently have no info to add to the topic.

As a side note, I've discovered OpenAI's Whisper and it's good at transcribing DHS audio lectures.
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General Discussion / It IS Possible to Become an Expert or an Authority on TROM
« Last post by TromFan on August 02, 2024, 10:37:41 pm »
Hi Everyone,

I am in the final stretches of posting all the rest of the 90s lectures on my YouTube channel DIY Salvation. And, as per my policy, I always post TROM material with study help.

The truth of the matter is that, if you have the background, and you have the patience, and you have the persistence to learn TROM and actually DO the exercises, you can actually achieve a mastery of the subject.

You can be an expert, or even an authority on TROM.

Now, by this I mean you can become an authority on TROM AS TAUGHT BY DENNIS STEPHENS. In other words, you aren't inventing new techniques or theories, you just know the subject so well that you can teach it to others and express it in your own words accurately.

TROM is an exact science. It's not Art Appreciation class or Creative Writing, which are open to interpretation and individual bias. If you think that TROM is all a matter of opinion, then you just have not mastered the subject yet.

There may be others who know TROM better than I do, and that doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that until I came along, the main dissemination of the subject has been posting up the original manual, then hoping whoever downloads it gets it.  I get emails here and there from people who downloaded the original manual and NEVER could comprehend it until they watched the videos and/or read TROM 2023.

If you want to learn TROM, and eventually master the subject, I invite you to go to BetterTROM.com for the best TROM lessons you will get anywhere. And it's all FREE.

Dennis did say "Duplicate the work exactly" but later on he also said in "The Philosophy of TROM" lecture that TROM should be taught in schools. And I am sure a smart schoolteacher isn't going to go, "OK boys and girls, this is the Postulate Failure Cycle Chart" and start there like Dennis did in the manual.  No. He or she is going to teach them how to do R.I. on day one if they have any sort of common sense.

Dennis also said he's not the one to peddle TROM, that not unlike Lao-Tzu, he put that on someone else to do.

If you run a website or blog that is TROM-related, you want to ask yourself, "If I post the original manual in its original form, how many people are going to really get it?"

You KNOW that most people aren't. And you know that if they watch my fifteen min video on how to do R.I. that they may not necessarily do it right away, if ever, but they will at least know something about how TROM works, and they will look upon TROM as something they can actually learn if they wanted to.

You have a responsibility if you are going to communicate data that the other person at the other end has a chance of understanding it.

I am giving everyone that chance.  All you have to do is use my materials.  TROM 2023 is a public domain work. The videos are not copyrighted. You can post them anywhere you like.

Or you can continue doing the same thing the same way it's been done for decades, limiting the TROM community to mostly being a handful of Ex-Scientologists

This forum has been existence for ten years and has less than 100 members.  DIY Salvation on YouTube has been around less than two and has more than 200 subscribers.  Do the math. Ask yourself which method is getting more people interested in and comprehending TROM. My channel and site, or the way it's been done for the past 4 decades.

PLEASE DON'T LET MY WORK GO TO WASTE.  Update your sites and blogs with my materials.  Give people the website address, BetterTROM.com .  People are now getting this stuff and it's conceivable that (maybe not in my lifetime) someday TROM will become a household word.

Thanks for reading this.
TROMFan
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